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Paradoxium

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So, I came across something on Facebook that sparked my interest and inspired a lengthy reply.

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Let's say that a human of 7 weeks old was somehow born. Would it survive without extreme care and even then make it through with all of the help? No. If it wouldn't survive living in life at that time, then it shouldn't be considered living in the first place. The reason that it takes 9 months is because by then they're able to live on their own.

I don't believe that people should be able to do it on the six month mark, but abortion is completely justified. If you don't believe you want to face the fact of child birth + you can't support it, then that's your choice. Sure, there's many alternatives, especially including adoption, but that stills marks the woman with the physical and emotional pains of being pregnant and then coping with leaving her son or daughter to a random family.

Then here's the kicker, what if they decide, "Yes, I do want to put it up for adoption because I still love it", and then they end up not being able to go through with it when it is given birth. If abortion was an option, you're likely too young to support a child and that means the kid is growing up in a terrible environment and therefore will more than likely struggle for the 18 years of its life if it makes it that far in that family.

Eagles can't protect themselves either, but they're very sparse. We have seven billion humans on this planet, yet only 35,000 to 50,000 eagles in Canada + the US.

There are relatively large eagle populations in Alaska and Canada. Alaska, for example, is thought to have approximately 10,000 nesting pairs, Saskatchewan Province alone is estimated to have between 3500 and 4000 pairs. 0ver 3000 pairs are believed to exist in Canada in addition to Saskatchewan. Prime nesting areas in the United States are unevenly distributed in Florida, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Oregon & Washington. There are close to 400 active nests in National Forests alone, and perhaps as much on state and private lands.

Twenty five years ago most states had no nesting bald eagles at all. However, in the last few years, many states have had one of thirty pairs of bald eagles successfully raise young. It is this low number of bald eagles in the lower 48 states, where large numbers once existed, which prompts concern for the fate of the species.

They're on the brink of extinction whilst we're on the verge of over-population. It is completely justified to not allow the "killing" of bald eagles and their eggs.
 

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I'm going to guess that this is also your post from the website we are not allowed to name? (HF)
 

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This is advertisement is so silly. It's almost the same as the great "Beethoven Fallacy".
 

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Paradox said:
Abortion is wrong, simple as that. Abortion should be illegal.

You can't make absolute claims like that if you don't support them with evidence. You're simply giving an opinion and don't have anything to back it up.
 

Matigo

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@Leader abortion should be illegalized for many reasons and I have seen so many of these threads that I think people catch my drift on why. But I suppose I can give my reasoning.

Abortion is killing, basically an unborn, alive baby. Isn't that enough? Its killing our own kind, human, baby. Not an animal, one of us. Abortion is so wrong in so many ways, its not right in any way, and another reason why I am against it, is because it is against my religion. Abortion is another bad thing because it is a waste of tax payer money. We pay taxes and our taxes get put in tons of things, such as new roads and things to help us, but it also is put into supporting abortion clinics.


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Paradox said:
@Leader abortion should be illegalized for many reasons and I have seen so many of these threads that I think people catch my drift on why. But I suppose I can give my reasoning.

Abortion is killing, basically an unborn, alive baby. Isn't that enough? Its killing our own kind, human, baby. Not an animal, one of us. Abortion is so wrong in so many ways, its not right in any way, and another reason why I am against it, is because it is against my religion. Abortion is another bad thing because it is a waste of tax payer money. We pay taxes and our taxes get put in tons of things, such as new roads and things to help us, but it also is put into supporting abortion clinics.


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It isn't considered a human until it is born. Plus, when most abortions are performed, the baby hasn't even developed a nervous system. I'm not saying it's right, but I'm not saying it's wrong. That's an opinion question, and is subjective by nature. American women should have the right to choose what happens to their fetus. If it will endanger the life or health of the mother, the future life of a child, etc., any woman should be able to make the decision to have an abortion, if that's in her best interest.
 

Hysteria

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I don't like the idea of it but I believe women should have the choice of doing what suits them better in their situation.
 

Matigo

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@Leader but it is wrong, so many ways wrong. It is proven that the baby is being fed when the fetus, or whatever develops. When the mother eats, most of the food goes to the developing baby, the baby is alive, though not all its organs/bones and what not are not developed. Its wrong to kill life period, yeah it may not be fully alive, it may not be born, but still it is soon to be life, it is alive in ways and it is our own kind.
 

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Paradox said:
@Leader but it is wrong, so many ways wrong. It is proven that the baby is being fed when the fetus, or whatever develops. When the mother eats, most of the food goes to the developing baby, the baby is alive, though not all its organs/bones and what not are not developed. Its wrong to kill life period, yeah it may not be fully alive, it may not be born, but still it is soon to be life, it is alive in ways and it is our own kind.

There is no possible way to argue with your opinion, because that is it. It is merely opinion. Morals are subjective, and there are no absolutes. Killing an unborn fetus is in no way equatable to killing a full grown person.
 

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See I mean you should be able to choose its the mother and the fathers decision for it.
 
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