Aliens, are they real?

Moons are not planets, they are satellites (that which orbits a planetary body). You obviously didn't read my answer at all. I gave an extremely logical answer. If there is ice, there is water as ICE IS FROZEN WATER PARTICLES. This was my response: "I highly wish there was an "other" choice in the poll. Have you heard of the Drake equation? There is a great video about it by Carl Sagan, look it up. Anyways, the Drake equation estimates how many different forms of intelligent life there are in the universe, or rather any area. I find it far too closeminded to choose definitively, without question, any side at the moment but I am quite convinced that there are other forms of life that aren't on Earth, be it intelligent or not." Sounds logical, doesn't it? Nearly exactly what you said except more accurate -.-. And if we're the smartest lifeform we aren't in trouble, we're safe from being killed by a smarter lifeform -.-.

I put moons in ( )'s to say planets AND moons, not saying moons are planets. That'd just be stupid to say other wise.

But water and ice are not the same thing. One is considered a solid, and one is considered a liquid. The fact that water could be under the ice could indeed support life. (what were you even getting at by saying this statement?)

And yes I read your response, as well as everyone else's. But you just stated about an EQUATION that tried to predict what's out there if anything. I gave specific examples of different locations as to where "aliens" could exist and be living. I guess in theory it's logical, even though he's only estimating what's out there.

But it's not near what I said, yours is an estimation, mine was specifics. They both try and prove the same thing, but from different aspects (yours mathematically, mine via observation/exploration).

But we both agree that there could or may not be any "aliens" so I guess in that sense, we are both as logical as everyone else in the thread. lol

And that last statement was a joke, like "haha, we're already killing ourselves, if we can't survive how could something with less knowledge then us survive". (Yes, I know it's possible something with lesser intelligence could survive, it's a JOKE. Don't rage)

By the water thing I meant that if there isn't liquid water now there was in the past, meaning it at least COULD have supported life even if it doesn't much now.

The equation actually takes into account all habitable planets... So... Yeah?

Still don't see that point of your statement? That's what I said to begin with.

Exactly "planets". I took into account moons, then gave specific examples.
You = broad estimation (by math)
Me = specific explanations (by astronomy)
Us = same ending result, just different reasoning

This is the equation:

krazedkat said:

This is the equation:

Spoiler: equation

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"alternate equation" Oh no, Calculous :dodgy:

It's an interesting equation, but doesn't give specific examples of what scientist have "found". That's the only difference. Your equation is to determine the overall chance (does he go on to say what it is?). Mine is just singular places where life could live. Or places where we as humans could possibly move to, such as Titan. Dibs on that long ass trip...

We are not alone is this universe, There might be bad or good aliens out there. Who know we might end up sharing a planet with another life form setting up trade or diplomacy with one race and to war with another race. Our weapons will approve in the future.