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Hey everyone, Knight told me to post here for this so meh.

I am wondering, what is your views on the blackhat mentality as well as the whitehat one.

I think personally blackhats are here to make my day go by since without them there would be no whitehats. I personally know alot of blackhats and they are normal people, just with a bit of a "misguided" moral compass.

Post your opinions and don't flame others for their views please.
 

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It is definitely easier to have the blackhat morality then the whitehat one. However there is the concept of that someone, somewhere, is getting fucked over by what you are doing.
 

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Knight said:
It is definitely easier to have the blackhat morality then the whitehat one. However there is the concept of that someone, somewhere, is getting fucked over by what you are doing.
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That is a very true statement, most people stick with blackhat rather than whitehat since it is more of a "shortcut"
 

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Exactly, and most of the time to make money as a whitehat you need to be 18+ and have a "degree" saying that you know what the heck you are talking about.
 

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Well, I am no whitehat, but I'm not really a blackhat either. I'd say that I'm somewhere in-between black and gray. I implore the use of SQLi, XSS, XFS, and RFI but I don't think I've actually kept a site or defaced a site. It's just a fun challenge with the syntax sometimes, which I like.
 

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On HF I am known as a white-hat. Everywhere else it falls more into greyhat.
 

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Well, if my identity ever got stolen i would be mad as fuck.

What would you call hackers that hack black-hats? Not like white hats, but you send a counter virus to the black hat that hacked you?
 

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In my eyes a 'White-hat' hacker is just a 'Black-hat' hacker with a moral concious. A 'White-hack' hacker alerting the websites about the exploits they have found while the 'Black-hat' hacker exploiting it for there own personal gain.
 

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I'm blackhat, I say fuck the rest of the world, what I want I get. XD It may be morally wrong to you but I don't care. I donate and volunteer lots so it doesn't matter.
 

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Yeah, probably. But I'm pretty damn good at keeping hidden.
 

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krazedkat said:
I'm blackhat, I say fuck the rest of the world, what I want I get. XD It may be morally wrong to you but I don't care. I donate and volunteer lots so it doesn't matter.
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Are you implying that doing wrong can be countered by good? Maybe that might suit your conscious, but what if you stabbed someone and then planted a tree? Those don't seem to counter each other at all.
 

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I would never physically harm someone and if I financially harmed someone I would work my ass off to help them back on their feet.
 

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If you hacked a dollar from a million people, would that be safer than hacking a million dollars from a rich guy?
 

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It depends how rich the person is. I'm not really one for safety. If they rich guy's an ass and I CAN hack one million dollars from him I would and then I would spread that wealth to people that are not as lucky. Like Robin Hood if you will.
 

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maplman said:
If you hacked a dollar from a million people, would that be safer than hacking a million dollars from a rich guy?
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That's like saying: I'd rather steal one orange from 1000 factories instead of stealing 1000 oranges from one factory. Now, who really wants 1000 oranges, but it's all circumstantial.
 

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1000 oranges can kill someone. Crushed to death... The perfect crime.
 

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The real question is, how would you go about crushing them? I.E. A dump truck, massing them on a building and having a trigger for them to roll off, or maybe just tying someone up and throwing them at said person. (This seems off-topic)
This is an analogy for blackhat activity, planning how commit a crime, definitely what I was getting at here.
 

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You guys are a silly and offtopic bunch, you know that? Back on the subject; I would much rather steal from that who is rich than that who is poor. I would also donate some of my earnings from that who is rich to that who is poor. I, however, am no ordinary thief. I prefer to use trickery so, in essence, they are willingly giving me their assets.
 
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