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I was originally going to buy a prebuilt computer, but after awhile I decided that I would built a computer
Link me parts that I should put in (btw this is a just normal browsing, and every once in awhile gaming computer)
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S/O to all the people that recommend this to me
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How much are you willing to spend on building your PC?
 

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Wyle said:
How much are you willing to spend on building your PC?
1K AT THE MOST
I already have $200 twords it.
 

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Okay, good. One question what will use the computer for? Like I mean gaming, or ...
 

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Use PCPartsPickeR, makes things easier for you. Google it
 

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Wyle said:
I found you all the parts you're going to need to build your PC these parts are really good, and but it's $1013 which you probably don't want but check it out first.

Link:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nkKKRB

Well.... the gpu I chose, the gtx 970 is better and more power efficient than the 290x, also it runs considerably cooler. Secondly, I have an aftermarket cooler which isn't too much more on the price. Thirdly, the SSD i chose is better for more practical needs like installing your programs and OS on, which is more than plentiful in size.
 

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Oh okay, should of looked more into it.
 

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Kowai said:
Sorry if i came off like a dick though, but at least you didnt make a train wreck.

It's okay, it's just constructive criticism.
 

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Wyle said:
Oh okay, should of looked more into it.

Do NOT go for the GTX 970 if you want to game at 1080p with Anti-Aliasing OR 1080+

Refer to this thread on HF http://www.hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=4780869 as to why AMD's 290x is a better card (for now and the future) compared to the GTX 970. RIP 970.


Also most non-reference 290x's run under 80 degrees celcius which is more than fine.
 

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The GTX 970 physically has 4GB card and no, the 3.5GB also runs slower than what it was advertised.

3.5GB only runs at 192GB/S, it was advertised that memory will run at 224GB/S. 0.5GB runs at 24GB/s.

The 970 has about a 40% higher clock speed than the 290. And it also has about x2 lower TDP, also it runs significantly cooler compared to the 290x.
 

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I know it's 4GB but it all runs slower than advertised and 0.5GB of it runs even slower than the rest.
The fact is it really isn't that big of a deal as far as performance goes, the biggest issue comes down to the false advertising, if they would have advertised the 970 as having 3.5Gb nobody would say it's a bad card.
But there's an actual BANDWIDTH issue. Not just memory issue. Ultimately due to the design of the crossbars and the memory controllers, it is not possible for 1 crossbar port to carry the full load of 2 memory channels in all circumstances. The crossbar port and its attached ROP/L2 unit can access both memory channels at once, splitting up the 4 operations among them, but there is only 1 read return bus and 1 write data bas, and hence in practice it cannot issue identical operations to both memory channels at once . As a result NVIDIA has segmented the GTX 970’s memory into the now-familiar 3.5GB and 512MB segments. In the case of the 3.5GB segment, this behaves otherwise identically to a fully enabled card such as the GTX 980, with the 1KB stride being striped over 7 crossbar ports, and hence 7 DRAM modules. Meanwhile the 8th and final DRAM module sits in its own 512MB segment, and must be addressed by the crossbar on its own.
This in turn is why the 224GB/sec memory bandwidth number for the GTX 970 is technically correct and yet still not entirely useful as we move past the memory controllers, as it is not possible to actually get that much bandwidth at once when doing a pure read or a pure write. In the case of pure reads for example, GTX 970 can read the 3.5GB segment at 196GB/sec (7GHz * 7 ports * 32-bits), or it can read the 512MB segment at 28GB/sec, but it cannot read from both at once; it is a true XOR situation. The same is also true for writes, as only one segment can be written to at a time." (quoting Aesthetics from HF as he's very knowledgeable)
and seeing as nearly all AAA games uses above 3.5GB and future proofing is not existent on this card. Sure its not problem when you crank AA all way down to bare minimum, but who buys $400 card to do bare minimum, especially when cards can do more than just that for the same price.
Therefore, the 290x outperforms it when it comes to resolution and AA.
Most aftermarket 290x's will perform under 80 degrees celcius and not too loud
 

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Marley said:
Here's my build. A little over 1k but it's nice

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xxGnJx
i7 really unnecessary.
16GB RAM unnecessary.
PSU is garbage.
Doesn't need water cooling for just browsing.
No SSD on 1k budget?
GTX 960 isnt that capable for when he does want to game.



OP, here's a build for pure gaming. Could save even more money buy going for a non-K version of the processor and perhaps dropping to an AMD R9-290 GPU instead.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($226.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($110.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury White Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($62.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($52.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tr-X OC Video Card  ($301.50 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1032.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-17 22:42 EDT-0400