Communism Vs Capitalism

[Inxy]

What your view on this two government system?

 

[WetRain]

I am all for capitalism. I am more for the right to vote for whom we want to lead us.

 

[Lunagron]

Communism, was created for multiple reasons. One reason was that people should be able to do whatever job they want and get paid the same amount as everyone else. The problem with this is society will always have slackers.

 

[Relapse]

Communism, was created for multiple reasons. One reason was that people should be able to do whatever job they want and get paid the same amount as everyone else. The problem with this is society will always have slackers.

so you'd rather live in a place like communist China where everything is censored, can't read most books, cant use most if not all websites, and if you even speak bad about the government get a bullet in your head?

Capitalism all the way, I believe everyone should have the chance to make it to the top, which in capitalism is possible for anybody.

 

[Phantomkiller42]

Who the fuck would want to be communist? (Sorry for the people that do, lol)

So many times in the past have countries tried to be communist and failed.

I definitely wouldn't want to be living like North Korea or China. Sorry, but i like my freedom.

 

[Lunagron]

I never said I support communism, my post, if anything, was putting down communism.

 

[Relapse]

I never said I support communism, my post, if anything, was putting down communism.

by saying "communsim," as the first word in your sentence implies your supporting communism over capitalism

 

[Lunagron]

by saying "communsim," as the first word in your sentence implies your supporting communism over capitalism

You didn't say capitalism first either. I can come up with bullshit facts too. :thumbsup:

 

[Relapse]

You didn't say capitalism first either. I can come up with bullshit facts too. :thumbsup:

but it clearly states i support capitalism, unlike yours where you only mention commuism and clearly implies you support communism, wheres the bullshit facts?

 

[Lunagron]

This is hardly a debate, more of an argument. I do not, nor have I ever supported communism. BTW, communism was not intended as a government system. It was meant to regulate the economy of Russia.

China is hardly communist ( no matter what anyone says ), it is more of a totalitarian government. Please, grow up before you continue to debate. The positioning of a word in a sentence hardly determines which type of system I support.

 

[Relapse]

This is hardly a debate, more of an argument. I do not, nor have I ever supported communism. BTW, communism was not intended as a government system. It was meant to regulate the economy of Russia.

China is hardly communist ( no matter what anyone says ), it is more of a totalitarian government. Please, grow up before you continue to debate. The positioning of a word in a sentence hardly determines which type of system I support.

Lol the father of communism, Karl Marx, was german and in no way was intended to be for only Russia. Considering the fact he was born and died way before the USSR.

Clearly you don't even understand what communism is, if you did you would understand the point of it is to be spread throughout the entire world, which is the only way it is supposed to work. Which is why it has never worked.

And communism pretty much is totalitarian form of government until the whole world is communist, at which point the leader is supposed to step down.(another reason it more than likely wont work)

And seriously the grow up card? I'm not even going to stoop down to your level by responding to that.

 

[Lunagron]

Lol the father of communism, Karl Marx, was german and in no way was intended to be for only Russia. Considering the fact he was born and died way before the USSR.

Clearly you don't even understand what communism is, if you did you would understand the point of it is to be spread throughout the entire world, which is the only way it is supposed to work. Which is why it has never worked.

And communism pretty much is totalitarian form of government until the whole world is communist, at which point the leader is supposed to step down.(another reason it more than likely wont work)

And seriously the grow up card? I'm not even going to stoop down to your level by responding to that.

You might need to actually take a few steps up. Before you do that however, you might want to grow a pair.

Yes Karl Marx founded communism, but at its time no country employed it. Russia was the first to do so.

You then had Joseph Stalin and Leon Trotsky. In my opinion, Trotsky would have led the country much better. Stalin was a dictator.

Also, in case you haven't noticed America released propaganda about communism. Communism is not "evil" or even "bad". America released so much propaganda about it during the cold war that it still affects people today. If I were to go out to a political debate and declare myself a communist, people would look at me with shock. Some would be fearful and others disgusted. Some may be confused, but the ones that don't care are the correct ones.

Why? They understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Communism would have never worked in the first place.

BTW, neither capitalism or communism are actual governmental structures. These are structures for the economy within a country. Communism was basically an economy controlled by the government while capitalism promotes the free market.

 

[Relapse]

You might need to actually take a few steps up. Before you do that however, you might want to grow a pair.

Yes Karl Marx founded communism, but at its time no country employed it. Russia was the first to do so.

You then had Joseph Stalin and Leon Trotsky. In my opinion, Trotsky would have led the country much better. Stalin was a dictator.

Also, in case you haven't noticed America released propaganda about communism. Communism is not "evil" or even "bad". America released so much propaganda about it during the cold war that it still affects people today. If I were to go out to a political debate and declare myself a communist, people would look at me with shock. Some would be fearful and others disgusted. Some may be confused, but the ones that don't care are the correct ones.

Why? They understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Communism would have never worked in the first place.

BTW, neither capitalism or communism are actual governmental structures. These are structures for the economy within a country. Communism was basically an economy controlled by the government while capitalism promotes the free market.

about 80% of your post has absolutely no relevance to what I said. You said communism was MADE for Russia which it wasn't. Just because Russia was the first to use it surely does not mean it was made for them.

And wtf is with this propaganda shit? It has no part in what were discussing, and no where did I say communism is evil so I dont know where that part came from. And nowhere did I say capitalism was a government structure but communism is a government structure, that also controls the economy.

Lol and more personal attacks? Clearly you are not capable of having a rational discussion since that post in no ways rebuttals my points in my last post, and your resorting to insults in a pitiful attempt to debate with me.

 

[Lunagron]

I refuse to argue with you any longer.

 

[Relapse]

I refuse to argue with you any longer.

probably the smartest thing you've said in this entire thread. lol I kid I kid but Iwas getting tired of arguing as well.

 

[Rude_mybb_import10652]

In those two options I would choose communism. Me being an anarchist (Anarchy as some roots from Communism) I don't want a president or a depute, saying what I WANT, because only me can say what I want. About china, that's the real Communism, but now imagine a Communism without censor and freedom. For me that's the only true way of living.
Be free Like a lil' Bird.

 

[Peter C]

the problem is that Communism only seems to work when you're reading books, but in real life, it's all messed up, and doesn't work. Karl Marx had it going right, but it's when he said "there will be no need of leadership, that everyone will start considering each other equal, people will still work hard even after knowing a potato farmer makes same amount as a doctor."
I love Karl Marx, but there will always be people that want more than others. This will create people lazy as well...

I don't like capitalism either, we need something new.. ~3% of the world population controls ~90% of the world wealth because of it.

Very interesting concept.

Edit: As for the people having the debate, umm you guys have something wrong, no nation has yet been fully communist. Russia tried, but they were not at that complete level of communism. Communism states that you won't need/have a leader.
If you actually think China/Korea is a real communist country, come on man, it's dictatorship..

 

[Relapse]

the problem is that Communism only seems to work when you're reading books, but in real life, it's all messed up, and doesn't work. Karl Marx had it going right, but it's when he said "there will be no need of leadership, that everyone will start considering each other equal, people will still work hard even after knowing a potato farmer makes same amount as a doctor."
I love Karl Marx, but there will always be people that want more than others. This will create people lazy as well...

I don't like capitalism either, we need something new.. ~3% of the world population controls ~90% of the world wealth because of it.

Very interesting concept.

Edit: As for the people having the debate, umm you guys have something wrong, no nation has yet been fully communist. Russia tried, but they were not at that complete level of communism. Communism states that you won't need/have a leader.
If you actually think China/Korea is a real communist country, come on man, it's dictatorship..

Please read up on communism, it pretty much is a dictatorship until the whole world is Communist and the leader is supposed to step down, which is why it doesn't work

 

[fatMatch]

I think the thread title should be Socialism vs. Capitalism. Communism is what you call failed Socialism, and Socialism looks good on paper. Capitalism doesn't work either, but I don't know what the term for a failing Capitalist governing system should be called.

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

On paper communism can not be beat. The theory of communism is just perfect you can't argue against it. But humans are not robots, social factors play in and communism fails. Capitalism seems like an okay idea on paper and has so far worked well in the real world but is expected to fail soon. Personally I think socialism that leans more right is the best choice