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Contradictory Athiests

Singer

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See now I'm religious, bag me out all you want it doesn't necessarily bother me.

But what does bother me is the fact that most athiests seem to feel the need to say "Your religion is wrong, God doesn't exist" and then proceed to say we shove our beliefs down peoples throats.

But in saying that you are contradicting yourselves, saying that we're shoving our beliefs down peoples throats, but in all honesty, everything you're saying is contradictory and ultimately makes athiesm a religion in itself.

This is the reason I prefer agnostic people, they simply don't give a shit about religion, they don't choose to argue their beliefs of science or nothingness.

Opinions pls. Harass me if you please.
 

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Singer said:
See now I'm religious, bag me out all you want it doesn't necessarily bother me.

But what does bother me is the fact that most athiests seem to feel the need to say "Your religion is wrong, God doesn't exist" and then proceed to say we shove our beliefs down peoples throats.

But in saying that you are contradicting yourselves, saying that we're shoving our beliefs down peoples throats, but in all honesty, everything you're saying is contradictory and ultimately makes athiesm a religion in itself.

This is the reason I prefer agnostic people, they simply don't give a shit about religion, they don't choose to argue their beliefs of science or nothingness.

Opinions pls. Harass me if you please.

I agree with what you're saying 100%. Its annoying mainly on HF when i could say " I believe in God". Then 30 people harass me saying that what i believe is wrong. When i never criticized what they believe to be true. But yet me being a christian im automatically considered a hypocrite.
 

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Yep. Pretty much. Who gives a fuck what someone else needs to think. It's them not you. Lol.
 

Cann!bal

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Singer said:
See now I'm religious, bag me out all you want it doesn't necessarily bother me.

But what does bother me is the fact that most athiests seem to feel the need to say "Your religion is wrong, God doesn't exist" and then proceed to say we shove our beliefs down peoples throats.

But in saying that you are contradicting yourselves, saying that we're shoving our beliefs down peoples throats, but in all honesty, everything you're saying is contradictory and ultimately makes athiesm a religion in itself.

This is the reason I prefer agnostic people, they simply don't give a shit about religion, they don't choose to argue their beliefs of science or nothingness.

Opinions pls. Harass me if you please.

I've noticed that too, however, I'm a secularist.

I don't often see people saying "Your religion is wrong," but that phrase I agree is imposing ones beliefs on another. But to say "God doesn't exist," isn't imposing any beliefs, it's simply stating your beliefs.

Atheism is not a religion, don't be so foolish.

I would like to end this post with the saying "Everyone's a hypocrite."
 

Singer

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Cann!bal said:
I've noticed that too, however, I'm a secularist.

I don't often see people saying "Your religion is wrong," but that phrase I agree is imposing ones beliefs on another. But to say "God doesn't exist," isn't imposing any beliefs, it's simply stating your beliefs.

Atheism is not a religion, don't be so foolish.

I would like to end this post with the saying "Everyone's a hypocrite."

I know, everyone is hypocritical to a point, but in saying that athiesm is 'like' a religion, i'm not wrong.

For example, Christians believe in God and Jesus and that.
Athiests believe that God doesn't exist, but what do they believe in? Science? That's obviously a belief, God is just a belief. Doesn't it work?

I'm not making much sense, but seriously. Most athiests are tight ass cunts.
 

м¢ℓσνιη

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I believe that Jesus died and rose, but I don't believe that he woke up again.
 

Cann!bal

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Singer said:
I know, everyone is hypocritical to a point, but in saying that athiesm is 'like' a religion, i'm not wrong.

For example, Christians believe in God and Jesus and that.
Athiests believe that God doesn't exist, but what do they believe in? Science? That's obviously a belief, God is just a belief. Doesn't it work?

Atheism is the lack of belief in a god. Not the belief that there is no god. If you require a more detailed and longer explanation watch this video.

[video=youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=200qAsgpfwU[/video]

Plus using the claim that atheism is a religion changes nothing, I don't understand why theists make this fallacious claim so often when it useless and helpless, only time-wasting.


I'm not making much sense, but seriously. Most athiests are tight ass cunts.

No, you're not making much sense. Take a different approach I suppose then, I haven't meet any secularists that are as rude as you're suggesting. However, I don't personally know many atheists.


McLovin said:
I believe that Jesus died and rose, but I don't believe that he woke up again.

You believe in the resurrection of Christ, but then don't? That doesn't make much sense. Care to elaborate, despite this being somewhat off-topic?
 

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Cann!bal said:
You believe in the resurrection of Christ, but then don't? That doesn't make much sense. Care to elaborate, despite this being somewhat off-topic?

I believe that there was probably a person called Jesus, I just don't believe there was him "dieing" and then coming to life again. If it did happen, then why doesn't it happen to people now a days?
 

Singer

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I didn't suggest any secularists are rude. Where are you getting this from may I ask?


Sorry for double post, but you believe that religion shouldn't be a part of this world, or what?

I didn't know what a secularist was so I didn't say anything about them being ignorant or rude. Although I do now know what it is, and it doesn't make much sense to me, believing that religion is the reason for all wrong doings in the world, or believing that religion should be abolished?

Not every person is lured into believing in God, Allah or whoever else. Some people choose to believe in a superior being, is that wrong of someone?


I could be wrong about secularism, I'm not sure if Wikipedia is telling me the right thing. Care to quickly elaborate on what it is you believe?
 

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Singer said:
I didn't suggest any secularists are rude. Where are you getting this from may I ask?

"Most atheists are tight ass cunts." I interpreted that as being rude. And excuse me, I meant atheists, not secularists.

Sorry for double post, but you believe that religion shouldn't be a part of this world, or what?

I didn't know what a secularist was so I didn't say anything about them being ignorant or rude. Although I do now know what it is, and it doesn't make much sense to me, believing that religion is the reason for all wrong doings in the world, or believing that religion should be abolished?

According to Merriam-Webster Secularism is defined as "indifference to or rejection or exclusion of religion and religious considerations."

I think a world without religion is more favorable than a world with religion.

Not every person is lured into believing in God, Allah or whoever else. Some people choose to believe in a superior being, is that wrong of someone?

Nope, however, if you impose or use your religious beliefs as valid justification, specifically towards the law, then yes.

I could be wrong about secularism, I'm not sure if Wikipedia is telling me the right thing. Care to quickly elaborate on what it is you believe?

What I've said previously should provide a good explanation to secularism and my thoughts.
 

Singer

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Cann!bal said:
"Most atheists are tight ass cunts." I interpreted that as being rude. And excuse me, I meant atheists, not secularists.


According to Merriam-Webster Secularism is defined as "indifference to or rejection or exclusion of religion and religious considerations."

I think a world without religion is more favorable than a world with religion.


Nope, however, if you impose or use your religious beliefs as valid justification, specifically towards the law, then yes.


What I've said previously should provide a good explanation to secularism and my thoughts.

A lot of religious people are open minded, especially Anglican, most Christian (excluding Catholic) and others. They don't say religion over rules law, the only religions that really do are the Westbro Baptist Church shit, and the extremist islamic religion.

You need to know that a lot of religious people nowadays (younger generations) believe in Jesus and God, but that is all, they don't feel as if the power of Christ should compel them to do idiotic things.

All I ask is that you be more open minded and know that there are religious people out there who are generally nice people who won't even talk about their religion in person. For instance, myself.
 

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Singer said:
A lot of religious people are open minded, especially Anglican, most Christian (excluding Catholic) and others. They don't say religion over rules law, the only religions that really do are the Westbro Baptist Church shit, and the extremist islamic religion.

You need to know that a lot of religious people nowadays (younger generations) believe in Jesus and God, but that is all, they don't feel as if the power of Christ should compel them to do idiotic things.

All I ask is that you be more open minded and know that there are religious people out there who are generally nice people who won't even talk about their religion in person. For instance, myself.

I'm a very open minded person and do know that some religionists are open minded. I know a lot about religion growing up in a very Christian family. However, please watch this video, it directly shows how your logic of calling me close-minded is fallacious.

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI[/video]
 

Singer

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I'm a very open minded person and do know that some religionists are open minded. I know a lot about religion growing up in a very Christian family. However, please watch this video, it directly shows how your logic of calling me close-minded is fallacious.

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI[/video]

Will do. You seem pretty damn intelligent, so I'll kindly ask if you'd go check out my Euthanasia thread and give me your opinion. (If you haven't already)
 

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Singer said:
Will do. You seem pretty damn intelligent, so I'll kindly ask if you'd go check out my Euthanasia thread and give me your opinion. (If you haven't already)

I have already commented on that thread, I was the first to reply if I remember correctly. I was in favor of there being an option.
 

Mercedes

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I believe in god. I hate when atheist say god isnt real but then they talk about the devil being real.
 

Singer

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I believe in god. I hate when atheist say god isnt real but then they talk about the devil being real.

Yeah, that mainly is a lot of the younger athiests though, that think they're absolutely top notch for not believing in god. They just seem to think that rebelling against religion makes them cool, lol.
 

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Singer said:
I know, everyone is hypocritical to a point, but in saying that athiesm is 'like' a religion, i'm not wrong.

For example, Christians believe in God and Jesus and that.
Athiests believe that God doesn't exist, but what do they believe in? Science? That's obviously a belief, God is just a belief. Doesn't it work?

I'm not making much sense, but seriously. Most athiests are tight ass cunts.

I believe every kid complaining on a forum is a tight ass cunt.
 

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You only get offended if it applies to you.
 

Singer

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I believe every kid complaining on a forum is a tight ass cunt.

Awkwardly enough big guy, this is the intelligent debate, and I'm not complaining. I'm debating and stating my opinion on this matter.

How's about you don't post on my thread if you haven't an actual opinion on the matter.

Cheers big guy.
 
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