Got AGS & D claws

[logistics]

Hey guys.. I know this isn't an achievement or anything, but I have d claws & AGS as well as about 18m. I'm going to be making around 2-3m a day as well.

Now that I've said that -- would some defences be more appropriate than normal? I really would like to hybrid most of the time, but edgeville fights are cool too.

I am looking at 4 possible defences.

-20 defence. I don't really know about this one, but if 75 attack 90-99 str will keep me away from rune pures I would be pretty thankful.
-30 defence. Honestly I know that there's not too much of a reason to make this pure, but I would prefer it a LOT to initiate & rune due to originality points. Not to mention i0h is the person that pretty much got me into pking and I've always wanted to make an addy daddy. Not to mention I'm risking rune gloves as opposed to barrows gloves.
-35 defence. Barrows gloves as opposed to rune gloves for 1 combat level is pretty much awesome. The only problem is I'm risking 100k, which (hopefully) won't be too much of a problem. And I can get 85 agility with ease. Agile is a great clutch for people like me that are new to the hybriding scene too. Also, I can get ardy cloak 1/2, rag & bone man helm, pretty much ZERO risk! No venge, unfortunately. The idea I love about this pure is you basically risk nothing and still have the potential to beat rune pures, which are risking more.
-40 defence. Pretty much the whole package. I'm just afraid of having to fight turmoil pures when -I don't want turmoil even if I could afford it, which I CANNOT-. And I risk more.

Prayer levels
-43 prayer I honestly don't like this level.. I think 45 would be so much better.. but maybe someone can tell me why pures get this?
-45 prayer no smite, good stat bonuses.
-52 prayer smite, higher combat levels though.
-77 prayer honestly I thought this might be a great one for 30-35 def. I could pretty easily penetrate rune pures with the stat bonuses from augury and rigor. I'm assuming at least..


Keep in mind I've never made a pure over 1 def and this is all theorycrafting. Thank you.

 

[Optics]

Geez having a bank worth 50m+ is a achievement itself .

 

[logistics]

Geez having a bank worth 50m+ is a achievement itself .

lol, thanks i've been at 10m for as long as i can remember so finally getting enough for these items was a pretty big achievement for me.

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

If you get defense it should be quested. Most defense levels are associated with a certain achievement that comes from doing a quest except armor's that don't require quests. Therefore I'd recommend 45 defense all quested (Zerker Pure) along with 52 prayer for smite. Do not max out the account in combat stats excluding defense and prayer or else you'll get owned.

 

[logistics]

If you get defense it should be quested. Most defense levels are associated with a certain achievement that comes from doing a quest except armor's that don't require quests. Therefore I'd recommend 45 defense all quested (Zerker Pure) along with 52 prayer for smite. Do not max out the account in combat stats excluding defense and prayer or else you'll get owned.

Haha I've done a lot of research on the different defence levels. What to get, what to quest for, etc. Honestly I think that a zerker helm isn't worth 5 defence levels, I don't really want to debate about it or anything, but I just would really prefer to stay 40 defence or below. And I also plan on getting MAX 80 attack, although probably staying 75 for as long as I possibly can. Even then I might stay around 90 str because I don't want to get the combat levels. That might change with experience, though. I do like the 52 prayer though.

Thanks for your comment.

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

It's called a zerker because of the item you can wear. But the helm isn't the only reason. A zerker pure vs a Rune pure at the same combat normally ends in the zerker pure taking the fight. But if you really don't want that then I definitely wouldn't recommend 30 defense. The 20 defense is uh okay but I'm not a big fan of it. So I'd either say 40 defense or 35 defense. Remember thats only 2 combat levels between the two and the bonus you get from being 2 combat levels higher will be worth it unless you plan on pking right at level 1 wilderness so the rune pure can't attack you. Your welcome for the comments, let me know what you decide to go with.

 

[logistics]

It's called a zerker because of the item you can wear. But the helm isn't the only reason. A zerker pure vs a Rune pure at the same combat normally ends in the zerker pure taking the fight. But if you really don't want that then I definitely wouldn't recommend 30 defense. The 20 defense is uh okay but I'm not a big fan of it. So I'd either say 40 defense or 35 defense. Remember thats only 2 combat levels between the two and the bonus you get from being 2 combat levels higher will be worth it unless you plan on pking right at level 1 wilderness so the rune pure can't attack you. Your welcome for the comments, let me know what you decide to go with.

I realize that there are other items in addition to the zerker helm, those being the other fremmenik helms. What else is there? And honestly I completely agree with you about the bonuses. The main point of a 35 defence pure (in my and forty lashes' opinions) is for great hybriding gear and also because of not risking ANYTHING compared to rune pures/zerker pures who would risk much more.

Do you have skype that you could PM me or an ingame name so we can talk more? I'd like to be friends .

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

Sure thing, if you click on my profile my skype is right there. I'd be glad to be friends and chat more about this. And regarding what you brought up, the reason being having the exact same stats except 40 defense and 45 defense would be 1+combat. I'm not exactly familiar with a zerker's gear but I don't see either of those two fighting very different opponents, they would actually end up fighting each other meaning the Zerker would win having the exact same hitting stats as we could say but higher defending stats and armor bonus's.

 

[logistics]

Sure thing, if you click on my profile my skype is right there. I'd be glad to be friends and chat more about this. And regarding what you brought up, the reason being having the exact same stats except 40 defense and 45 defense would be 1+combat. I'm not exactly familiar with a zerker's gear but I don't see either of those two fighting very different opponents, they would actually end up fighting each other meaning the Zerker would win having the exact same hitting stats as we could say but higher defending stats and armor bonus's.

Yep, but isn't that what it would be like universally? If you're fighting a 45 def pure with 40 def and you're fighting the same level you'll have 5 attack/str levels somewhere extra. I'd rather have those stats. Also, you would be fighting people 1 lower less than what you would with zerker pure, which you've said. Not to mention you fake people out as a noob when they see a rune full instead of a zerker.

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

Well we're talking about the same melee stats. You told me you planed to raise your attack to 80 at most. So i gave you a 99 for strength. The same HP, same prayer, just different defense. Since you said you planned not to raise attack then your version of a zerker and a rune would be different. I get what you mean about trying to sike a player out but I think most good pker's are careful about it.

 

[iHeartless]

Hey guys.. I know this isn't an achievement or anything, but I have d claws & AGS as well as about 18m. I'm going to be making around 2-3m a day as well.

Now that I've said that -- would some defences be more appropriate than normal? I really would like to hybrid most of the time, but edgeville fights are cool too.

I am looking at 4 possible defences.

-20 defence. I don't really know about this one, but if 75 attack 90-99 str will keep me away from rune pures I would be pretty thankful.
-30 defence. Honestly I know that there's not too much of a reason to make this pure, but I would prefer it a LOT to initiate & rune due to originality points. Not to mention i0h is the person that pretty much got me into pking and I've always wanted to make an addy daddy. Not to mention I'm risking rune gloves as opposed to barrows gloves.
-35 defence. Barrows gloves as opposed to rune gloves for 1 combat level is pretty much awesome. The only problem is I'm risking 100k, which (hopefully) won't be too much of a problem. And I can get 85 agility with ease. Agile is a great clutch for people like me that are new to the hybriding scene too. Also, I can get ardy cloak 1/2, rag & bone man helm, pretty much ZERO risk! No venge, unfortunately. The idea I love about this pure is you basically risk nothing and still have the potential to beat rune pures, which are risking more.
-40 defence. Pretty much the whole package. I'm just afraid of having to fight turmoil pures when -I don't want turmoil even if I could afford it, which I CANNOT-. And I risk more.

Prayer levels
-43 prayer I honestly don't like this level.. I think 45 would be so much better.. but maybe someone can tell me why pures get this?
-45 prayer no smite, good stat bonuses.
-52 prayer smite, higher combat levels though.
-77 prayer honestly I thought this might be a great one for 30-35 def. I could pretty easily penetrate rune pures with the stat bonuses from augury and rigor. I'm assuming at least..


Keep in mind I've never made a pure over 1 def and this is all theorycrafting. Thank you.

In my pure-knowledgeable opinion, 20 defence (Initiate/Mystic Pure/Hybrid) is the best route if you DEFINITELY want to raise defence. There are many reasons, but these are the top for me:

1: Better Defence Bonuses/Gear
2: Better Attack/Strength Bonuses/Gear
3: Higher RFD Gloves (Rune I believe)
4: It's only a change of 3 combat levels when maxed (including 99 HP and 52 Prayer).

That's my opinion, but the rest the final decision is up to you. Good luck with whatever path you chose.

 

[logistics]

Hey guys.. I know this isn't an achievement or anything, but I have d claws & AGS as well as about 18m. I'm going to be making around 2-3m a day as well.

Now that I've said that -- would some defences be more appropriate than normal? I really would like to hybrid most of the time, but edgeville fights are cool too.

I am looking at 4 possible defences.

-20 defence. I don't really know about this one, but if 75 attack 90-99 str will keep me away from rune pures I would be pretty thankful.
-30 defence. Honestly I know that there's not too much of a reason to make this pure, but I would prefer it a LOT to initiate & rune due to originality points. Not to mention i0h is the person that pretty much got me into pking and I've always wanted to make an addy daddy. Not to mention I'm risking rune gloves as opposed to barrows gloves.
-35 defence. Barrows gloves as opposed to rune gloves for 1 combat level is pretty much awesome. The only problem is I'm risking 100k, which (hopefully) won't be too much of a problem. And I can get 85 agility with ease. Agile is a great clutch for people like me that are new to the hybriding scene too. Also, I can get ardy cloak 1/2, rag & bone man helm, pretty much ZERO risk! No venge, unfortunately. The idea I love about this pure is you basically risk nothing and still have the potential to beat rune pures, which are risking more.
-40 defence. Pretty much the whole package. I'm just afraid of having to fight turmoil pures when -I don't want turmoil even if I could afford it, which I CANNOT-. And I risk more.

Prayer levels
-43 prayer I honestly don't like this level.. I think 45 would be so much better.. but maybe someone can tell me why pures get this?
-45 prayer no smite, good stat bonuses.
-52 prayer smite, higher combat levels though.
-77 prayer honestly I thought this might be a great one for 30-35 def. I could pretty easily penetrate rune pures with the stat bonuses from augury and rigor. I'm assuming at least..


Keep in mind I've never made a pure over 1 def and this is all theorycrafting. Thank you.

In my pure-knowledgeable opinion, 20 defence (Initiate/Mystic Pure/Hybrid) is the best route if you DEFINITELY want to raise defence. There are many reasons, but these are the top for me:

1: Better Defence Bonuses/Gear
2: Better Attack/Strength Bonuses/Gear
3: Higher RFD Gloves (Rune I believe)
4: It's only a change of 3 combat levels when maxed (including 99 HP and 52 Prayer).

That's my opinion, but the rest the final decision is up to you. Good luck with whatever path you chose.

Thanks for your opinion on this, I know it's probably based on experience. I'm considering 20 defence and 52 prayer as a starting place -- do you have any specific points where I would get 20 defence and 52 prayer, going from 1 & 1? I'm only 50 attack 61 strength at the moment, hoping to stay at 60 attack for a little while. Honestly, I haven't done Monkey Madness and I would like to do it with 52 prayer if I'm going to get it soon anyways. I know it wasn't a good idea in the old world pking, but now that old wild is back I think it might be a good idea.

 

[iHeartless]

Hey guys.. I know this isn't an achievement or anything, but I have d claws & AGS as well as about 18m. I'm going to be making around 2-3m a day as well.

Now that I've said that -- would some defences be more appropriate than normal? I really would like to hybrid most of the time, but edgeville fights are cool too.

I am looking at 4 possible defences.

-20 defence. I don't really know about this one, but if 75 attack 90-99 str will keep me away from rune pures I would be pretty thankful.
-30 defence. Honestly I know that there's not too much of a reason to make this pure, but I would prefer it a LOT to initiate & rune due to originality points. Not to mention i0h is the person that pretty much got me into pking and I've always wanted to make an addy daddy. Not to mention I'm risking rune gloves as opposed to barrows gloves.
-35 defence. Barrows gloves as opposed to rune gloves for 1 combat level is pretty much awesome. The only problem is I'm risking 100k, which (hopefully) won't be too much of a problem. And I can get 85 agility with ease. Agile is a great clutch for people like me that are new to the hybriding scene too. Also, I can get ardy cloak 1/2, rag & bone man helm, pretty much ZERO risk! No venge, unfortunately. The idea I love about this pure is you basically risk nothing and still have the potential to beat rune pures, which are risking more.
-40 defence. Pretty much the whole package. I'm just afraid of having to fight turmoil pures when -I don't want turmoil even if I could afford it, which I CANNOT-. And I risk more.

Prayer levels
-43 prayer I honestly don't like this level.. I think 45 would be so much better.. but maybe someone can tell me why pures get this?
-45 prayer no smite, good stat bonuses.
-52 prayer smite, higher combat levels though.
-77 prayer honestly I thought this might be a great one for 30-35 def. I could pretty easily penetrate rune pures with the stat bonuses from augury and rigor. I'm assuming at least..


Keep in mind I've never made a pure over 1 def and this is all theorycrafting. Thank you.

In my pure-knowledgeable opinion, 20 defence (Initiate/Mystic Pure/Hybrid) is the best route if you DEFINITELY want to raise defence. There are many reasons, but these are the top for me:

1: Better Defence Bonuses/Gear
2: Better Attack/Strength Bonuses/Gear
3: Higher RFD Gloves (Rune I believe)
4: It's only a change of 3 combat levels when maxed (including 99 HP and 52 Prayer).

That's my opinion, but the rest the final decision is up to you. Good luck with whatever path you chose.

Thanks for your opinion on this, I know it's probably based on experience. I'm considering 20 defence and 52 prayer as a starting place -- do you have any specific points where I would get 20 defence and 52 prayer, going from 1 & 1? I'm only 50 attack 61 strength at the moment, hoping to stay at 60 attack for a little while. Honestly, I haven't done Monkey Madness and I would like to do it with 52 prayer if I'm going to get it soon anyways. I know it wasn't a good idea in the old world pking, but now that old wild is back I think it might be a good idea.

If you haven't completed all of the quests to be completed for MM [Monkey Madness], then you'll get AT LEAST 61 attack and possibly 62. If so, I would get 70/75 attack. Up to you. But, in the Runescape Guides section I'm going to post a thread containing a complete pure quest list as i'm building one right now. I'll edit this post with the link to the thread.

 

[logistics]

In my pure-knowledgeable opinion, 20 defence (Initiate/Mystic Pure/Hybrid) is the best route if you DEFINITELY want to raise defence. There are many reasons, but these are the top for me:

1: Better Defence Bonuses/Gear
2: Better Attack/Strength Bonuses/Gear
3: Higher RFD Gloves (Rune I believe)
4: It's only a change of 3 combat levels when maxed (including 99 HP and 52 Prayer).

That's my opinion, but the rest the final decision is up to you. Good luck with whatever path you chose.

Thanks for your opinion on this, I know it's probably based on experience. I'm considering 20 defence and 52 prayer as a starting place -- do you have any specific points where I would get 20 defence and 52 prayer, going from 1 & 1? I'm only 50 attack 61 strength at the moment, hoping to stay at 60 attack for a little while. Honestly, I haven't done Monkey Madness and I would like to do it with 52 prayer if I'm going to get it soon anyways. I know it wasn't a good idea in the old world pking, but now that old wild is back I think it might be a good idea.

If you haven't completed all of the quests to be completed for MM [Monkey Madness], then you'll get AT LEAST 61 attack and possibly 62. If so, I would get 70/75 attack. Up to you. But, in the Runescape Guides section I'm going to post a thread containing a complete pure quest list as i'm building one right now. I'll edit this post with the link to the thread.

I've done pretty extensive research before making a pure, so yeah I did all of the quests already for MM. Thanks for the heads up, and I'll be looking for the thread.

And do you have any advice on any specific stats I should get defence & prayer levels at?

 

[iHeartless]

Thanks for your opinion on this, I know it's probably based on experience. I'm considering 20 defence and 52 prayer as a starting place -- do you have any specific points where I would get 20 defence and 52 prayer, going from 1 & 1? I'm only 50 attack 61 strength at the moment, hoping to stay at 60 attack for a little while. Honestly, I haven't done Monkey Madness and I would like to do it with 52 prayer if I'm going to get it soon anyways. I know it wasn't a good idea in the old world pking, but now that old wild is back I think it might be a good idea.

If you haven't completed all of the quests to be completed for MM [Monkey Madness], then you'll get AT LEAST 61 attack and possibly 62. If so, I would get 70/75 attack. Up to you. But, in the Runescape Guides section I'm going to post a thread containing a complete pure quest list as i'm building one right now. I'll edit this post with the link to the thread.

I've done pretty extensive research before making a pure, so yeah I did all of the quests already for MM. Thanks for the heads up, and I'll be looking for the thread.

And do you have any advice on any specific stats I should get defence & prayer levels at?

This is my thread: http://runegear.net/Thread-Quests-Check-List-for-Pures-1-Def

And I mention Prayer in the guide/check list.

 

[logistics]

If you haven't completed all of the quests to be completed for MM [Monkey Madness], then you'll get AT LEAST 61 attack and possibly 62. If so, I would get 70/75 attack. Up to you. But, in the Runescape Guides section I'm going to post a thread containing a complete pure quest list as i'm building one right now. I'll edit this post with the link to the thread.

I've done pretty extensive research before making a pure, so yeah I did all of the quests already for MM. Thanks for the heads up, and I'll be looking for the thread.

And do you have any advice on any specific stats I should get defence & prayer levels at?

This is my thread: http://runegear.net/Thread-Quests-Check-List-for-Pures-1-Def

And I mention Prayer in the guide/check list.

Thanks, will read it now.

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Your guide gives good information on which quests to get and which items you can get with each prayer, but could you give me any specific advice on when to get prayer levels? For instance, would I get 31 prayer now and 52 prayer when I'm 65 combat? What do you think? I plan to get 52 prayer.

 

[iHeartless]

I've done pretty extensive research before making a pure, so yeah I did all of the quests already for MM. Thanks for the heads up, and I'll be looking for the thread.

And do you have any advice on any specific stats I should get defence & prayer levels at?

This is my thread: http://runegear.net/Thread-Quests-Check-List-for-Pures-1-Def

And I mention Prayer in the guide/check list.

Thanks, will read it now.

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Your guide gives good information on which quests to get and which items you can get with each prayer, but could you give me any specific advice on when to get prayer levels? For instance, would I get 31 prayer now and 52 prayer when I'm 65 combat? What do you think? I plan to get 52 prayer.

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Get 43 prayer first, and then after ALL quests are done, get 52. I should've said that in the guide. But that's the way to go to make sure you don't get over 52 prayer on accident. Thanks for asking simply, I was confused on your question/wording at first.

 

[logistics]

This is my thread: http://runegear.net/Thread-Quests-Check-List-for-Pures-1-Def

And I mention Prayer in the guide/check list.

Thanks, will read it now.

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Your guide gives good information on which quests to get and which items you can get with each prayer, but could you give me any specific advice on when to get prayer levels? For instance, would I get 31 prayer now and 52 prayer when I'm 65 combat? What do you think? I plan to get 52 prayer.

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Get 43 prayer first, and then after ALL quests are done, get 52. I should've said that in the guide. But that's the way to go to make sure you don't get over 52 prayer on accident. Thanks for asking simply, I was confused on your question/wording at first.

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Thanks for the guideline, I wasn't sure how to word it at first so I guess an example was best.

 

[iHeartless]

Thanks, will read it now.

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Your guide gives good information on which quests to get and which items you can get with each prayer, but could you give me any specific advice on when to get prayer levels? For instance, would I get 31 prayer now and 52 prayer when I'm 65 combat? What do you think? I plan to get 52 prayer.

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Get 43 prayer first, and then after ALL quests are done, get 52. I should've said that in the guide. But that's the way to go to make sure you don't get over 52 prayer on accident. Thanks for asking simply, I was confused on your question/wording at first.

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Thanks for the guideline, I wasn't sure how to word it at first so I guess an example was best.

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No problem, good luck with your account!

Going to bed for the night.

 

[Tyler-]

Good stuff, now go for p hat set pls