Had To Do It

Alright guys, here it is. 9/11.

My opinion is that it isn't a government conspiracy. As messed up Bush's ideals and policies were at the time and what followed, there is no way the government of America, one of if not the proudest nation on Earth, staged a terrorist plot to blow up two of the most monumental towers in the world as an excuse for invading Middle Eastern countries for oil.

That's my opinion.
The rest of you, go!

I don't believe they would do that, they would have at least sent in a terrorist warning...

Sir said:

I don't believe they would do that, they would have at least sent in a terrorist warning...

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At least. They could have made it look 'more genuine' if they were really trying to pull a stunt like that. I almost find all those conspiracy sites an insult to those who tragically lost their lives.

I really don't think it was a conspiracy. As much as I dislike my own country, I don't think the people running it are that fucked up. Maybe someone in our government had something to do with it, but not more than one single person, which even then I doubt. It is really easy to find things to build a conspiracy out of, but until it can be proven, I belief it wasn't.

Isn't it true that they found missiles being fired from the plane on impact?
(I'm not American)

TriGz said:

Isn't it true that they found missiles being fired from the plane on impact?
(I'm not American)

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I really don't know, I never looked in to 9/11 much, but it was a commercial airliner so I don't think it had missiles.

It was a big lie to get to war in middle east its about money, We wanted oil! Oil cost more than gold and we wanted it so we had it where we attacked 2 important USA icon towers to be destroyed. Explain 10 years earlier 1991 there was a previous bombing to weaken the structure then they planted bombs. The bombs were proved because the tower fell like a construction it would of went slower when the top fell not faster, meaning something was exploded. The planes were equipped with bombs too they blew right before impact.

TriGz said:

Isn't it true that they found missiles being fired from the plane on impact?
(I'm not American)

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I don't think this is correct. I have seen footage of the planes hitting the towers and there are no missiles. Not only that the planes, as mentioned before, are not able to carry missiles. Another myth.

HakkuR* said:

It was a big lie to get to war in middle east its about money, We wanted oil! Oil cost more than gold and we wanted it so we had it where we attacked 2 important USA icon towers to be destroyed. Explain 10 years earlier 1991 there was a previous bombing to weaken the structure then they planted bombs. The bombs were proved because the tower fell like a construction it would of went slower when the top fell not faster, meaning something was exploded. The planes were equipped with bombs too they blew right before impact.

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This is your opinion. I have read into this also, and the reason that the tower fell the way it did was due to a design fault in the core metal frame of the tower. The high pressure heat of the burning plane and aviation fuel caused the core metal frame of the tower to melt, meaning it to collapsed downward.
If you think about it logically, it seems slightly odd that those planes, which are relatively small in comparison to the buildings managed to bring them down to rubble. There had to be a default. I don't think the terrorists thought they would collapse, I think they just wanted to put a big hole in something that resembled the west.

Might I provide a simple fact? There were obvious precollision explosions on the towers, if you watch the videos. There are explosions occuring 10 feet beneath the main explosions/fire.

Videos are a lot easier to edit than people think, especially if you have a professional doing it. Also, how can you determine if it was 10 feet? If a camera was close enough for you to determine if it was 10 feet or not, well, they would have had to have been right there, which would have killed the camera man and crushed the camera.

Xypher said:

Videos are a lot easier to edit than people think, especially if you have a professional doing it. Also, how can you determine if it was 10 feet? If a camera was close enough for you to determine if it was 10 feet or not, well, they would have had to have been right there, which would have killed the camera man and crushed the camera.

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I completely agree. There are very few facts surrounding this, apart from the facts that two planes hit two towers and they fell, leaving devastation. Very sad.

Trust me its a lie, nobody im sure would not attack this country on the number for emergency.

For the counterargument to this conspiracy theory "they wouldn't do it." I think is a very naive statement. I'm still not sure what happened in 9/11 as it was never finished investigating.

What I do believe is that no matter who caused it, it came well in hand for the powerholders of America. The powerholders of America are the private stockholders behind the federal reserve who have on purpose created this system in America which makes every person in debt for any work they do and for every penny they make. Now does this not sound like people who would not mind 3000 people dead?

May I add that there have been several attempts before to gather a reason for invading Iraq. The first failure was "They have nuclear bombs". It was proven false. The second failure was "They have large amounts of chemical or biological weapons" which was also proven false. The successful one was 9/11.

May I also remind you that a false flag attack was done and admitted during the Cuba Crisis to justify Americas attacks on Cuba?
See 'Operation Northwoods'.

My argument here is just to say that the powerholders could morally do it. Whether they did it or not I have not covered.

I sort of agree with the guy above me. I mean they would do it and not think twice about it. Do I think the government did it? No, they wouldn't waste so much resources to invade a foreign country.

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Sir said:

I don't believe they would do that, they would have at least sent in a terrorist warning...

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At least. They could have made it look 'more genuine' if they were really trying to pull a stunt like that. I almost find all those conspiracy sites an insult to those who tragically lost their lives.

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This IS the Bush administration we are talking about, a bunch of bumbling idiots. Also: it's not so much an insult as pointing at a different murdered.

Quentin B. said:

Might I provide a simple fact? There were obvious precollision explosions on the towers, if you watch the videos. There are explosions occuring 10 feet beneath the main explosions/fire.

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So, terrorists can't plant bombs?
I'm not saying that there were or were not pre-collision explosions, but if terrorists can steal a few airliners, why can't they plant bombs in a large building?

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krazedkat said:

At least. They could have made it look 'more genuine' if they were really trying to pull a stunt like that. I almost find all those conspiracy sites an insult to those who tragically lost their lives.

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This IS the Bush administration we are talking about, a bunch of bumbling idiots. Also: it's not so much an insult as pointing at a different murdered.
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You seem to forget that George Bush is smarter than most of the people on this website.

Lol, no he is not. Well, he is smarter than some of the dimwits here I guess. XD As for the bombs, the plan was all done overseas apparently so... No inside man could have done that (for the terrorists).

I don't really know what I believe on this one. It could very well have been anything.

MiS said:

I don't really know what I believe on this one. It could very well have been anything.

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Anything? Pretty sure a tornado didn't take the towers down.

Anymore ideas?

Aliens hijacked the planes, with their telekinetic powers.
They were making an example of us New Yorkers.