Infamous said:Humanity is to the earth as a parasite is to the creature; we're sucking it dry. We should convert to mutual-ism!
Daniel Faraday said:
- Is the human race inherently good or bad?
To put such ease into a question is to really deny what it is, in it's purest form. Is the human race good or evil? To answer that we would have to know, or at least be able to guess with a rational opinion, what good and evil are. We would then have to prove that our definition fit examples of what the two are. Even then, though. Is good and evil something that can truly be defined? Societies change morals and adapt them to their present state. What, then, of the question at hand?
- In our current society, do we live by Hobbe's or Locke's philosophy?
Locke argues that man cannot know good or evil. He says that, in our natural state, we are something of a peaceful race. Only in societies that shove us in other directions do we stray from that peacefulness. On the other hand, Hobbes say that man, in his natural state, is a brutish creature. Not a peaceful race at all, but bent on the ideals of a savage animal. This is where it takes a turn, but knowledge, to Locke, is well enough to know what is right and wrong. Still, though, we do not know good and evil, we know bits of what is good and evil. Which would go back to what Plato says about the difference between knowledge and right opinion vs. not having knowledge. Hobbes, on the other hand, is convinced that man is inherently evil. He says that there is no such thing as morality. There is no such thing as order and structure. There is only society and what it tells you is right and wrong.
With that being said, both philosophies pose great points and have real life evidence to support them. Not one man is right, but all men hold a piece of truth. In my personal opinion, Locke's theories fit the mold more closely than Hobbes's.
- Where should one draw the line between freedom and law?
Who is to say that there is a line between freedom and law? To say that there is would require the definition of freedom. Is there a definition, or is personal freedom entirely subjective?
It follows, then, from what you agree, that to do whatever we do along with a bit of virtue is virtue; for you to say justice is a bit of virtue, and so with each of those bits. Well, why do I say this? Because when I begged you to tell me what whole virtue is, instead of telling me that you say that every action is virtue if it be done with a bit of virtue, just as if you had explained what virtue is as a whole and I should know it at once even if you chopped your coin up into farthings. Then I must put the very same question from the beginning, as it seems: My friend Meno, what is virtue, if a little bit of virtue would make any action virtue? [...] [Do] you believe we can know what a bit of virtue is, when we do not know virtue itself.
"global warming" is a natural process the earth has gone through for millions of years and wasn't caused by us as humans. And animals have been going extinct way before humans, just look at the dinosaursMonstar said:No question the world would be a much better place without us in it, we're wiping out all the Earth's natural resources.
Without us, no global warming, no animals going extinct. Much healthier
Relapse said:"global warming" is a natural process the earth has gone through for millions of years and wasn't caused by us as humans. And animals have been going extinct way before humans, just look at the dinosaurs
>look at the dateMonstar said:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2023835.stm <- just saying.
About the animals going extinct, I understand they have. Although it would be going at a much slower rate than if we wasn't around.
The date is not irrelevant because we have proved global warming (and Al Gore for that matter) to be a huge hoax. Ya pollution has increased but nowhere near enough to strongly effect our environment. Our planet goes through a cycle of warming and cooling throughout its lifetime, hence ice ages.Monstar said:The date is irrelevant, it's true. The increase of pollution since we've been here speaks for itself.
Just saying, I'm enjoying this little debate with you, don't turn it into something it doesn't need to be. Keep it clean and if you don't flame I won't.
Relapse said:The date is not irrelevant because we have proved global warming (and Al Gore for that matter) to be a huge hoax. Ya pollution has increased but nowhere near enough to strongly effect our environment. Our planet goes through a cycle of warming and cooling throughout its lifetime, hence ice ages.
http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html
There is a hole in the ozone over Antarctica which has been closing for 30 years. And it just happens to be in one of the least inhabited places on EarthMonstar said:I may be misunderstood, I was under the impression the huge hole in the ozone layer was caused by humanity.
And the huge hole in the ozone layer was the cause of global warming.
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