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Solidify

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Here in Canada, a shitstorm is about to take place.


The usage-based billing fracas has calmed down considerably over the past few weeks, but a few people continue to beat the drum in support of it despite the fact that it’s looking dead in the water. UBB is, if you’ve forgotten, essentially an increase in prices by big internet providers on a wholesale service they provide to smaller rivals. The increase means it’ll be a lot more expensive, if not impossible, for smaller ISPs to offer the large internet usage buckets they’ve been selling.

People got freaked out over this and hundreds of thousands signed an online petition, prompting the government to promise it will overturn the plan if the regulator, the CRTC, doesn’t do so first. The CRTC is going back to the drawing board and UBB is in a holding pattern until this all gets resolved, if it ever does.

Still, some folks – like the editorial writers at Maclean’s – continue to maintain that UBB is the right way to go. Supporters usually latch on to one or both of the arguments of fairness – that heavy internet users should be forced to pay more – or that bandwidth is like a utility. Many commentators, myself included, have argued against these talking points but evidently they still continue to percolate. Here then, are 10 reasons why the arguments for UBB don’t hold water.

I cherry picked the two that had caught my attention with regards to piracy's defense.

Heavy users are not all pirates. This is usually what the crux of the UBB argument comes down to. There’s a mistaken belief among UBB supporters that all the internet is good for is email, surfing the web and watching the occasional cat playing piano on YouTube, so 5 gigabytes a month or so should do it. Anyone who needs more is clearly a file-sharing pirate, so if the law can’t stop ‘em, maybe usage limits will – and should. That’s so wrong it’s not even funny. There are no “heavy ” and “light” users, only early adopters and mainstream users. Yesterday’s Napster users are today’s iTunes customers, while yesterday’s peer-to-peer file-sharers are today’s Netflix subscribers. The proof is in the pudding: In a 2009 survey of Canadian internet users, Statscan found that 31% went online to download or watch television and movies, up from only 12% in 2005. More and more non-pirate Canadians are moving toward heavy-bandwidth services, such as online video, while more and more perfectly legal services that use lots of bandwidth are also coming online every day – things like internet radio, online video game service Steam, HD video-conferencing, and so on. This means more and more Canadians are becoming so-called “heavy users” every day. If UBB supporters want to punish these heavy users, they’re eventually going to punish themselves.

Pirates are not necessarily bad. Further to that, just as all virus creators and hackers are not necessarily evil because they do point out flaws in products, so too do illegal file-sharers actually perform a public service. The iTunes store would not have started if Napster’s success hadn’t concretely established public demand for online music. The same goes for Netflix and BitTorrent. File-sharers are often feathered and tarred for their questionably legal activities, which often result in heavy bandwidth consumption, but they do blaze economic and technological trails for new online business models.

Now that you know how piracy can help promote, do you still think its bad, that being, if you did before having read-up on this?
 

Gart

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IMO it's kind of a common sense thing, hey i can pay for this or i can get it free, what would you choose?
 

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Gart said:
IMO it's kind of a common sense thing, hey i can pay for this or i can get it free, what would you choose?

True but some people have consciences. A friend of mine buys all his songs from iTunes. He's really against piracy.
 

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Solidify said:
True but some people have consciences. A friend of mine buys all his songs from iTunes. He's really against piracy.

Haha, well im a bit of a penny pincher, music to me is free and only free lol.
 

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Gart said:
Haha, well im a bit of a penny pincher, music to me is free and only free lol.

Of course, I'm sure a lot more people pirate music compared to the amount of people that don't.
 

Mc. Donalds

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To be honest.

Piracy wouldn't exist or be 10,000x less than it is now, if companies didn't charge so fucking much for products, and thought about the consumer instead of their bank accounts.

/End thread.
 

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Jonathan said:
To be honest.

Piracy wouldn't exist or be 10,000x less than it is now, if companies didn't charge so fucking much for products, and thought about the consumer instead of their bank accounts.

/End thread.

Everyone needs to make money bud. That's why greedy corporations overcharge the public for goods and services.
 

WetRain

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tl;dr, I am okay with internet piracy following that the downloaded or installed item isn't worth over like $3
 

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WetRain said:
tl;dr, I am okay with internet piracy following that the downloaded or installed item isn't worth over like $3

I can't stand tl;dr'ers. :inquisitive:
 

LoveToHax

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Solidify said:
True but some people have consciences. A friend of mine buys all his songs from iTunes. He's really against piracy.

That still requires a download.
I might download a lot of pirated stuff...
But legit...
I definitely stream about like 50 gigs a month at my speed.
I DL legit apps like from my iphone, and that's like 300MB an app sometimes...
I fill up the whole disk in like half a month and have to empty it...
And most of it is legitimate...
And plus, I live in the US, but still...
Seriously, I know people who use steam, and they get their harddisks crashed...
What do they do?
Log onto steam, redownload anything they lost, and usually leave it overnight to download.
I've done that before, and usually, my games can go up to like 70-80gigs total...
Charging for bandwidth is shit...
And what happens when you get several new computers?
That's seriously like a $500 bill you're looking at depending on provider...
So I say cut the crap and just let the internet be free...
I know some providers that charge like $0.02/MB over...
So that's like $1/50MB...
That adds up to like $20 per gig, which if you got 2 new computers and ran 100 gigs over... That's $2000.
I mean seriously?
 

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LoveToHax said:
That still requires a download.
I might download a lot of pirated stuff...
But legit...
I definitely stream about like 50 gigs a month at my speed.
I DL legit apps like from my iphone, and that's like 300MB an app sometimes...
I fill up the whole disk in like half a month and have to empty it...
And most of it is legitimate...
And plus, I live in the US, but still...
Seriously, I know people who use steam, and they get their harddisks crashed...
What do they do?
Log onto steam, redownload anything they lost, and usually leave it overnight to download.
I've done that before, and usually, my games can go up to like 70-80gigs total...
Charging for bandwidth is shit...
And what happens when you get several new computers?
That's seriously like a $500 bill you're looking at depending on provider...
So I say cut the crap and just let the internet be free...
I know some providers that charge like $0.02/MB over...
So that's like $1/50MB...
That adds up to like $20 per gig, which if you got 2 new computers and ran 100 gigs over... That's $2000.
I mean seriously?

I average about 200-300GB a month, sometimes more on special occasions.
 
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