I don't see how you can call me a liar, when you've never had any access to our traffic statistics? You have no way of saying where our members our forum. Sadly, the HF redirect only got me 400 unique hits. The major traffic boost came from the announcement where he linked to us. We only got a total of 800 members from HF, which is 14% of our memberbase. I know many think it did boost our traffic, but when we were hitting 30k unique hits, HF was only 40% of the traffic, and 50% of it was bounces. Sad, I know?