Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

[Assangha]

Palestine: Never Before has a people suffered such an injustice, yet displayed resilience and resistance - like Never Before.

Discussions on Palestine and the Palestinian cause have included attempts to link it to the struggle of South Africans under the apartheid regime, the struggle of the Vietnamese people, the Algerian revolution or other just causes throughout history. The conclusion, however, was that it cannot be compared to any.

What happened in Palestine since 1947 has never happened before, in terms of the combination of the elements: brutality and racism of the occupier, the injustice of granting one peoples land to others, duration of this injustice, complicity and apathy of the civilized world as well as Palestinian people's will to resist all that against all odds.

Injustice that is unfolding like never before met with resistance and resilience, also like never before.

For decades, Palestinians have been treated, at best, as poor unfortunate beings who might deserve charity and maybe some humanitarian aid. Meanwhile, Israel decides, at its own leisure, which bits of the usurped rights to give back.

The world does not respect the meek, rather the powerful and the confident. The Palestinian people are victims here, but they are also resilient and determined.

The West and the whole world are at fault here, not the Palestinian people or the resistance movements. Palestine will not wait for Western remorse that always comes too late, such as for the Holocaust, Rwanda and South Africa.

Before we start I would like to cover a few guidelines.
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Please follow these simple rules to avoid confusion and to avoid making yourself looking like an idiot;

• Make sure your post makes perfect sense.
• No insulting.
• No racism.
• Don't bring up anything that has nothing to do with this topic.

Introduction:
The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one of the world's longest standing conflicts, extending back centuries. Many people feel that resolving this conflict is the key to resolving the various conflicts throughout the Middle East. Many observers see this conflict creating Arab resentment towards the "West" and fueling radical Islamic terrorism. Although the conflict generates massive public discussion and debate, there are relatively few (if any) forums that inherently maintain an impartial and non-partisan approach to understanding it. We intentionally expose the massive variations of opinion, narrative and fact, to give our readers the best "big picture" understanding of the conflict and its potential solutions.

Standing arguments for both sides

Pro-Israel:
a) Israel is the historical "homeland" of the Jewish peoples who have lived there continuously since biblical times.
b) Many Jews believe that they deserve a "Jewish" state because of historical injustices, such as the Holocaust, and because they have international support and recognition through the U.N.
c) The majority of Israelis support a "two-state" solution, creating a Palestinian state alongside Israel in Gaza and the West Bank.
d) Other Israelis support the idea of "one-state", either by annexing all occupied territories into the Jewish state (far right view), or incorporate the occupied territories into one secular democratic state with equal rights for all (far left view).

Pro-Palestine:
a) The Palestinian people have lived in the area of Israel/Palestine since biblical times. They see most Israeli Jews as foreign colonizers who began arriving within the last 100 years.
b) Palestinians consider themselves a national entity, deserving of the rights of all nations, including a Palestinian state.
c) Many Muslim Palestinians and their supporters see the land as Islamic holy land, and are strictly opposed to non-Muslims owning and establishing a state on Muslim land.
d) Palestinians vary widely in what they see as a just solution to the conflict. They include: the total destruction of Israel; a "bi-national" or "one-state" solution; and a "two-state" solution.

Reference links:

http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/
-Unbiased.

http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocon...ic.php?p=53132
- To the morons who say Palestine DOESN'T exist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli...inian_conflict
- For those that use Wikipedia. (I won't trust Wikipedia.)​

 

[Saged]

What exactly is the point of this topic? Debate or information? I've studied this topic for months.. and it's an interesting one. The way the Israeli's handle the situation though, pisses me off. Palestine have every right to do what they're doing.

 

[Assangha]

What exactly is the point of this topic? Debate or information? I've studied this topic for months.. and it's an interesting one. The way the Israeli's handle the situation though, pisses me off. Palestine have every right to do what they're doing.

Both. Was intended to be informational, but people can debate this issue if they want. I don't think many people will agree with what the Jews are doing though.

 

[[Death]]

I agree with Nicodemus

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Off-topic: I preferred Saged >.<

The Palistinians are doing what the Israelis are doing, sexcept on a smaller scale.

 

[Assangha]

Come of guys. You aren't that stupid? Post here.

 

[Assangha]

Come of guys. You aren't that stupid? Post here.

 

[Reality]

I've already tried motivating people to post elsewhere, good luck.