so I just got scammed for my gamertag, Cupcake
pretty pissed right now; ultimately this was my own fault for not waiting for pm verification and I understand that. I just want to warn other users.
I really believed this was junior and got fucked over royally.
chatlog:
this person's paypal email is [email protected] and AIM: maximum.null.net - please let me know if you know who this person is.
Thank you for reading,
Chaz
pretty pissed right now; ultimately this was my own fault for not waiting for pm verification and I understand that. I just want to warn other users.
I really believed this was junior and got fucked over royally.
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Junior's iconJunior
$250 for Cupcake
Jul 5, 2014 11:55 PM
Chaz's icon
no thanks sorry
Junior's iconJunior
How much do you want? I want to get that tag for my friend.
Chaz's icon
I don't know if I want to sell it, I just had it appraised haha
Jul 5, 2014 11:56 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Well I have trades and cash.
Jul 5, 2014 11:58 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Measure, Moderate, Grape, Temperature, Trickshotting, Fishing
Jul 5, 2014 11:58 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Name a price.
Jul 6, 2014 12:04 AM
Chaz's icon
they're nice but i'm pretty happy with cupcake lol
Jul 6, 2014 12:12 AM
Junior's iconJunior
$400 for it
Jul 6, 2014 12:15 AM
Chaz's icon
i'll think about it
Jul 6, 2014 12:15 AM
Junior's iconJunior
Let me know soon man I'm willing to go higher if that's not enough.
Jul 6, 2014 7:25 AM
Junior's iconJunior
Can you sell me Cupcake?
Jul 6, 2014 7:25 AM
Junior's iconJunior
My girlfriend wants it.
Jul 6, 2014 7:55 AM
Junior's iconJunior
$550
Jul 6, 2014 2:54 PM
Chaz's icon
I would but I won't have anything to play on, sorry
Junior's iconJunior
I have trades
I could offer Grape as a trade if you have something to add to Cupcake.
Jul 6, 2014 2:55 PM
Chaz's icon
I'm thinking more cash and a lesser gamertag for cupcake
grape's pretty premium lol
i don't need anything amazing like that
Jul 6, 2014 2:56 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Measure, Moderate, Temperature, Trickshotting, Session, Slipped, Rock Star, Wrinkle
Do any of those interest you?
Chaz's icon
I like them all except for trickshotting
Jul 6, 2014 2:57 PM
Junior's iconJunior
What would you trade me Cupcake for?
Jul 6, 2014 2:58 PM
Chaz's icon
how much are things like slipped, rock star and wrinkle worth?
Junior's iconJunior
Slipped maybe 120
Wrinkle 250
Jul 6, 2014 2:58 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Rock Star 300-400
Jul 6, 2014 8:25 PM
Chaz's icon
$500 + slipped and we have a deal.
Jul 7, 2014 3:18 AM
Junior's iconJunior
I'll do $450 + Slipped.
Jul 7, 2014 1:10 PM
Junior's iconJunior
You there?
Jul 7, 2014 7:50 PM
Chaz's icon
Hi
Jul 7, 2014 7:50 PM
Chaz's icon
sorry I was working
Jul 8, 2014 3:13 AM
Junior's iconJunior
Are you here now?
Jul 8, 2014 8:32 AM
Junior's iconJunior
Hey
Jul 8, 2014 7:07 PM
Chaz's icon
heya
Jul 8, 2014 10:28 PM
Chaz's icon
Junior?
Jul 9, 2014 2:25 AM
Junior's iconJunior
This is ridiculous.
Jul 9, 2014 10:11 PM
Chaz's icon
I'm from the UK
Jul 9, 2014 10:11 PM
Chaz's icon
I think our timezones are pretty opposite lol
Jul 10, 2014 2:35 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Let me know when you're online.
Jul 10, 2014 7:10 PM
Chaz's icon
I'm online lol
4:23 AM
Junior's iconJunior
Omg
1:47 PM
Chaz's icon
hai
i'm here
hoping you are to
1:48 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Perfect
I was just about to leave my mom's house to go to work.
Chaz's icon
fuck work dude i'm way more important
Junior's iconJunior
What did you want for it again?
LOL
Lets do this fast so I'm not too late.
Chaz's icon
my keyboard
1:49 PM
Chaz's icon
isn't working right
idk what's going on
500 and sliped
can't type 2 ps
for some reason lol
Junior's iconJunior
I'll do 500 + Slipped if you can change the GT on Cupcake for me and let me take it on a freshy.
Chaz's icon
i don't want that kind of responsibility ;x
Junior's iconJunior
Don't worry, I'll get it.
1:50 PM
Junior's iconJunior
If I don't you'll still get the 500 + Slipped of course.
1:53 PM
Chaz's icon
restarting
brb
1:53 PM
Junior's iconJunior
K
1:58 PM
Chaz's icon
ugh i'm nervous
Junior's iconJunior
Why?
Chaz's icon
i'd feel a lot more comfortable just giving the account or if i could get part of the payment first
because what if i change it
you get it
and that's that
LOL
1:59 PM
Junior's iconJunior
You know I've owned some of the best tags in the scene, right?
Chaz's icon
I've heard
Junior's iconJunior
I've had countless 3-6 letter originals.
I'm not going to scam for a 7 letter.
Chaz's icon
how are you planning on paying?
Junior's iconJunior
Paypal
2:00 PM
Junior's iconJunior
I don't normally buy tags over 6 letters but my friend REALLY wants this tag for some reason.
Chaz's icon
because it's so cute ^^
Junior's iconJunior
So I'm getting it for him.
Yeah he's kind of weird like that.
Chaz's icon
PM me on FK stating the deal please, leave your AIM and PayPal email
2:01 PM
Junior's iconJunior
I can't really PM you right now cause I'm at my mom's house.
Her ISP blocks HF and FK. We could get a MM though.
2:02 PM
Chaz's icon
we could but I'd rather wait til you can just PM me. I'm going away for the weekend so I've gotta get ready and I don't wanna make you even more late for work lol.
you can probably contact me on kik more easily
2:02 PM
Chaz's icon
kik is 'heart'
Junior's iconJunior
Fuck do you know how long it took us to contact each other this time LOL.
Chaz's icon
yeah ikr
i just want this to go smoothly
Junior's iconJunior
I can access the offline version of the site if that helps.
2:03 PM
Junior's iconJunior
http://gyazo.com/7566b827b03e02399669a58f352acd10
We can get a MM though it you want.
if*
I don't want to wait another 4 days trying to contact you lol.
Chaz's icon
anyone in mind?
Junior's iconJunior
Only one I trust really is Philly.
2:04 PM
Junior's iconJunior
But I'm not paying the fee.
Chaz's icon
how much is it?
Junior's iconJunior
10%
2:05 PM
Chaz's icon
yeah fuck that shit
Junior's iconJunior
:-\
Fuck man.
I would go first but I don't really know you.
I've never seen you around really.
2:06 PM
Chaz's icon
I own a shitload of SMs and have tons more to sell, I'm not prepared to get banned if that helps lol
Junior's iconJunior
I have over $10k in tags and Twitters left to sell.
Chaz's icon
honestly I think this is a great price for cupcake i just want the deal to go smoothly
apprehensive
2:07 PM
Junior's iconJunior
I can't go first man you can ask anyone about me, I've dealt with most people that do regular deals on FK and HF.
Sold over $30k worth of tags.
Chaz's icon
yeah so i've heard
but right now the only proof i have that you're you is a screenshot
2:07 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Lol you can make a thread on FK and ask if this is my AIM if you want.
Or I could try to contact someone trusted to PM you to verify for me.
Chaz's icon
yeah try and contact someone please
2:08 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Ok.
2:09 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Do you trust Eric/Vegeta?
Chaz's icon
I do
Junior's iconJunior
Ight I'll text him and see if he's awake.
2:10 PM
Chaz's icon
kewwl
I'd be happy if we could do half payment > cupcake > rest of the payment
Junior's iconJunior
Sorry man, I would if I knew you personally or if I have dealt with you before but that is not the case.
I texted Eric.
2:11 PM
Chaz's icon
okay, cool
2:14 PM
Junior's iconJunior
If he doesn't respond in the next 15 minutes I'm going to have to go to work.
I would get the tag Bunnies but that kid wants 400 for it.
I don't think that tag is worth more than 200 imo.
Chaz's icon
I agree lol
2:15 PM
Chaz's icon
it's cute though
2:16 PM
Chaz's icon
with PayPal if I were to scam you, which isn't going to happen you could always reverse the payment
just putting that out der
Junior's iconJunior
eh that doesn't work 100% of the time
2:17 PM
Chaz's icon
I've never done it myself so I wouldn't know but I figured that's how it worked aha
Junior's iconJunior
It's nothing personal man. I've been scammed for thousands before because I gave someone too much trust.
Not saying you would scam me, but you never know.
2:18 PM
Junior's iconJunior
I own my own group on HF, that costed me and my friend around $8,000.
I have a lot more to lose.
Chaz's icon
yeah I get it and there's nothing I can really say to make you trust me over the internet. it's just frustrating because you have nothing to worry about but then again it's probably frustrating for you too LOL
2:19 PM
Chaz's icon
damn that's cray
2:22 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Yeah I don't think he's going to respond.
Fuck.
I'm tempted to go first but I can't take a risk like that after what happened a month ago.
Chaz's icon
what happened a month ago? ;o
2:23 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Scammed for $1,000 BTC by Crash on HF.
I was in pretty much the same situation.
Chaz's icon
broke ass nigga eh
Junior's iconJunior
I didn't have a chance to check his rep. He had 2 other scam reports on him.
Stupid move on my part.
Chaz's icon
should always check that stuff out first, I've made similar mistakes lol
2:24 PM
Chaz's icon
this will be different though
Junior's iconJunior
I just can't risk that again man. Are you sure you don't wanna use Philly?
He's a rip off but he's legit as can be.
2:25 PM
Chaz's icon
it's not that I don't want to use him
it's just the fee
Junior's iconJunior
Yeah I know.
I guess I'll get Bunnies.
I don't want to wait another week to get in contact with you.
No offense, lol. Not your fault or my fault, it's just our timezones.
Chaz's icon
yeah are you from the us?
Junior's iconJunior
CA
2:26 PM
Chaz's icon
ahh i see
how does paying half of the fee each sound?
Junior's iconJunior
If you want to take it off of the 500 I can but I'm pushing it spending 500 for my friend.
Chaz's icon
yeah
Junior's iconJunior
I don't care about Slipped but I'm kind of low on cash at the moment.
2:27 PM
Junior's iconJunior
And I live alone so no one else to help me with the bills.
Chaz's icon
yeah man I get it
what's the chances of me being able to get slipped onto the account cupcake's on without losing it
Junior's iconJunior
I've had slipped for over a year without speaking of it.
Nothing would happen to it if you swapped it.
2:28 PM
Chaz's icon
sounds good
is philly on atm?
Junior's iconJunior
Not sure.
I'm going to be late for work. Hopefully he responds fast.
Send him a PM on FK.
2:29 PM
Chaz's icon
okay
2:30 PM
Chaz's icon
Hi Philly, me and @Junior (AIM: maximum.null.net) would like you to MM our trade for us. We are willing to pay the fee the deal is $500 and a GT for my Gamertag.
Please let me know if you are able to do this,
Thanks.
2:31 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Alright. I'm going to go get a shower, if he doesn't respond in 10mins or so I gotta head to work. I'm already 5-10 mins late.
I'm just going to tell my boss I overslept.
Chaz's icon
alright man hope you don't get shit over it lol
Junior's iconJunior
Lol, I won't. My boss is pretty chill.
Brb.
2:32 PM
Chaz's icon
okay
2:43 PM
Junior's iconJunior
I'm back.
Has he responded?
Slipped has $15 on it btw
2:43 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Completely forgot about that.
2:44 PM
Chaz's icon
aha nice
and no he hasn't ;(
2:45 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Fuck.
2:46 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Well I gotta get to work man. Sorry.
2:47 PM
Junior's iconJunior
I'm sure you'll find another buyer for Cupcake.
Chaz's icon
it's all good
if you haven't got bunnies in a few days then feel free to kik me.
2:48 PM
Junior's iconJunior
I don't use Kik.
How about this.
I buy Cupcake
The full account
That way if I scam you, you can just call it in.
2:48 PM
Chaz's icon
I've never done that before this is my first and only gamertag
lol
Junior's iconJunior
You literally just call Xbox and give them your console ID and serial number and they lock the account and get it back to you in 1-3 days.
Ask anyone.
2:49 PM
Chaz's icon
yeah but you're going to change the name when you get the account anyway haha
i see what you're saying
but ya
Junior's iconJunior
I don't even have an Xbox lmao.
Fuck man. :-\
2:50 PM
Chaz's icon
lol fo real
Junior's iconJunior
I'm 21, I don't have time for Xbox anymore.
I gave up on my last console ban a year ago lol.
Chaz's icon
ya i barely play i just like having a nice name on *everything*
it's a bit of an obsession
Junior's iconJunior
:-\
2:51 PM
Junior's iconJunior
So you're sure you don't want to do it?
Chaz's icon
i want to do it i'm just scared
2:52 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Man you can ask anyone if this is my AIM. I've dealt with thousands of dollars worth of virtual items. I'm not going to scam for a 7 letter compound word.
Chaz's icon
if you can pm me and state the deal
I'll go first
Junior's iconJunior
-.-
2:53 PM
Junior's iconJunior
How else can I prove that I'm not lying...
Chaz's icon
by pming me ^^
lol sorry
2:54 PM
Junior's iconJunior
http://gyazo.com/be3b3833e48722f5fe72a51ee8501475
Not many people know that I own that.
Want to see more?
2:54 PM
Chaz's icon
damn that's cute
Junior's iconJunior
http://gyazo.com/8a6ce39639653100e9628d08bf6dbeb6
2:55 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Do you really not believe that I'm Junior?
Would a random kid have 2 5 letter OGs.
I can show you more if you want.
Chaz's icon
I do believe it it'd just be nice to have a PM confirming it
2:56 PM
Chaz's icon
do you not have phone internet that you can access fk on?
2:57 PM
Junior's iconJunior
I have a phone but I don't have 3G.
Do I have my AIM listed on my FK profile?
I think I might.
Chaz's icon
think I checked the other day
and didn't see it
2:58 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
W/e man.
I guess this isn't meant to be
2:59 PM
Chaz's icon
we can do this it just might take a couple more days
I understand you've been very patient
Junior's iconJunior
I'm going to try aiming Philly before I leave
His AIM is SnD Philly right?
Chaz's icon
according to his fk profile
that's correct
2:59 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Ok
3:00 PM
Junior's iconJunior
I aimed him.
I'll wait 5 minutes
3:01 PM
Chaz's icon
ya i aim'd him too
i've got a proposal
3:02 PM
Chaz's icon
how does slipped then cupcake then the money sound?
Junior's iconJunior
I'm still not going to risk that man. That's basically the same thing as you going first. Slipped is only like $80-120.
3:03 PM
Junior's iconJunior
I don't understand why you don't believe that I'm Junior lol.
Chaz's icon
because I have no solid proof of it
you obviously have a shit load of tags and can talk the talk
Junior's iconJunior
A screenshot of me signed in
Proof of 2 5 letter OGs
Chaz's icon
it'd just be nice to have a little solid proof
Junior's iconJunior
Do you think I photoshopped those or something?
3:04 PM
Junior's iconJunior
I sent them with the damn AIM chat opened man there's no way I could have photoshopped those in under 10 seconds lol.
Chaz's icon
yeah that's true lol
can you get someone to msg me and vouch that this is you?
Junior's iconJunior
I texted Eric but he still hasn't responded.
He's probably still asleep.
3:04 PM
Junior's iconJunior
I can't really think of anyone else.
Who would you want me to get to message you?
Chaz's icon
do you know sparky?
Junior's iconJunior
I'm already 30 minutes late for work
No.
Who is that?
Chaz's icon
someone from hf
i'm so close to giving u my details
Junior's iconJunior
I only have the contact info for people I've dealt with.
Chaz's icon
but i'm still so scared lol
Junior's iconJunior
-.-....
This is kind of getting ridiculous man.
3:05 PM
Chaz's icon
can you show proof of your paypal balance?
yeah i know
3:06 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Sure.
http://gyazo.com/a42bdf7f2f85faf48a52857330f68bdc
3:07 PM
Junior's iconJunior
That's just in my Paypal. I have a lot more in my bank account if you want to see that.
Chaz's icon
please don't let me down here
because i'm legit going to have a terrible weekend if I get fucked over now
Junior's iconJunior
I won't man, I don't know why you think I would scam for a 7 letter compound word.
3:08 PM
Chaz's icon
i'm just cautious
Junior's iconJunior
Can we do the original deal though? You can keep your main but I don't have an Xbox and my friend doesn't want it on the main cause he's scared you're going to call it in.
Chaz's icon
i'd rather your friend switches it himself
3:09 PM
Chaz's icon
like I said this is my first and only gamertag, I wouldn't know how even if I wanted to
Junior's iconJunior
He isn't going to do that. The last time he recovered a tag to swap, the guy called it in and got him console banned. He got to keep the tag though.
The whole point of me getting this is for my friend and he said he doesn't want it on the main lol.
3:09 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Come on dude I'm 30 minutes late for fucking work...
Chaz's icon
i'm offering to go first i think it's fair to ask that you meet me half way and take the account as it is
I know and I'm sorry about that, I think you should go to work we can deal another time if you wish
Junior's iconJunior
Ffs
3:10 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Send the account, I'll find someone to swap it for me tomorrow.
I really hope I don't buy this for no reason lol.
Chaz's icon
pw: r0sesbyth3st4irs
please don't let me down
Junior's iconJunior
I won't man.
3:11 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Give me a couple of minutes to secure it.
Chaz's icon
okay
3:12 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Last 4 digits of cell #?
have to verify it.
Chaz's icon
2750
Junior's iconJunior
Sent the code.
3:13 PM
Chaz's icon
8537848
3:14 PM
Chaz's icon
heart's racing lol >_<
3:15 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Chill out man, nothing is going to happen.
3:16 PM
Chaz's icon
trying haha
3:17 PM
Chaz's icon
all good?
Junior's iconJunior
Couple more minutes.
3:18 PM
Chaz's icon
oki
3:20 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Ok
Since you were going to swap it in the first place can you send $10 to my friend so he will have enough to swap it?
He's kind of poor which is why I'm buying him the tag lmao.
Chaz's icon
you can take $10 off of the payment
that's fine
lol that's sweet of you
3:21 PM
Junior's iconJunior
I can't send him the $10
That's why I'm buying him a tag
I would have just given him the $500
It won't let me send payments to his Paypal.
It gives that "We cannot process your payment at this time" error.
Chaz's icon
I can do that
Junior's iconJunior
Ok
3:22 PM
Junior's iconJunior
1 sec let me get his email
3:23 PM
Junior's iconJunior
[email protected]
Send as family/friends
How many consoles of yours are on this gamertag?
3:24 PM
Chaz's icon
2
3:25 PM
Chaz's icon
it's sent
3:25 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Ok 1 sec let me ask him
3:28 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Ok
3:28 PM
Junior's iconJunior
1 more thing
Chaz's icon
yep what's up
3:29 PM
Chaz's icon
I'm so nervous right now please put me out of my misery lol
3:31 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Are you still there?
Chaz's icon
yep
3:31 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Ok hold on
3:34 PM
Chaz's icon
holding on lol
Junior's iconJunior
Sorry dude my friend is trying to fix his Paypal
few more minutes
3:35 PM
Chaz's icon
it's okay just super anxious
3:38 PM
Junior's iconJunior
Ok
Can you take a picture of the profile on your console
then delete the profile
And take another picture
with cupcake deleted from it
Chaz's icon
I can but i'm going away soon
this is really a bit much to ask
but i'll tr
59 mins ago
Junior's iconJunior
Ok
56 mins ago
Junior's iconJunior
How long have you had this gamertag?
Chaz's icon
how do I delete it?
since around january
Junior's iconJunior
Press middle button
go over to system settings
Storage
56 mins ago
Junior's iconJunior
And you should know what to do from there
53 mins ago
Junior's iconJunior
You got it?
Chaz's icon
http://imgur.com/sFJVeIK
52 mins ago
Chaz's icon
http://imgur.com/oOI7iV7
http://imgur.com/wTJ3OoN
Junior's iconJunior
Ok
Now do the other console
Chaz's icon
I don't own the other console
that's my canadian friends
Junior's iconJunior
Oh
ok
Let me message my friend and make sure everything is good to go.
51 mins ago
Chaz's icon
please hurry
50 mins ago
Chaz's icon
i can't deal with much more waiting
46 mins ago
Chaz's icon
come on Junior I don't have much time
43 mins ago
Junior's iconJunior
Ok
What's your Paypal email
Chaz's icon
[email protected] as family and friends with the note: Payment for goods I have received - non refundable
please
thank you
38 mins ago
Junior's iconJunior
Man it's not letting my fucking friend add his Paypal on it
Wtf
Chaz's icon
on what?
the gamertag?
Junior's iconJunior
Yeah
Why is that?
Chaz's icon
I have no idea
but it's not my fault and I really can't wait any longer
Junior's iconJunior
Can he refund you the $10 and you add your Paypal on it to swap it?
His Paypal isn't working...
Chaz's icon
I don't have time for this my sister's picking me up *soon*
37 mins ago
Chaz's icon
he has the tag and he will come up with a solution
I just want the payment because this isn't fair
it's been like an hour
Junior's iconJunior
It will literally take 5 minutes to do this...
Chaz's icon
junior this isn't fair at all
I really need to go
i'm not just saying it
36 mins ago
Junior's iconJunior
Ok hold on he's trying 1 more thing
31 mins ago
Chaz's icon
what's going on
28 mins ago
Chaz's icon
hello?
Junior's iconJunior
2 more minutes i'm so sorry man
Chaz's icon
it's okay man i'm just kinda freaking out here
21 mins ago
Chaz's icon
any luck?
Junior's iconJunior
Do you have a amazon account
Chaz's icon
yes but I don't use it
why?
Junior's iconJunior
My friend will send you your $10 back
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-Gift-Car...=1405091891&sr=8-1&keywords=$10+xbox+currency
Buy that
it will email you the code
Please man this is a last resort.
20 mins ago
Junior's iconJunior
His Paypal won't work for some reason.
Chaz's icon
okay
make this quick please
18 mins ago
Junior's iconJunior
He refunded you the money
Chaz's icon
i need a state and zip code
that's legit
asap
17 mins ago
Junior's iconJunior
Ohio 44131
16 mins ago
Chaz's icon
M6NCM-2B7D4-RF34W-WJVGQ-JTWYM
please make this quick
11 mins ago
Chaz's icon
keep me posted
Junior's iconJunior
Waiting on my friend
Chaz's icon
okay
10 mins ago
Chaz's icon
can I please get slipped now I'm not going to have time to secure it otherwise
7 mins ago
Junior's iconJunior
fuck it
He'll just have to swap it tomorrow. Still isn't letting him change it.
What's your paypal email again?
Chaz's icon
[email protected]
as a gift with the note: Payment for goods I have received - non refundable please
i promise you there is a 0% chance it'll get taken back
he has nothing to worry about
3 mins ago
Junior's iconJunior
ok
im really sorry for this
I'm not actually junior
Chaz's icon
are you serious man
Junior's iconJunior
yea
Chaz's icon
who are you?
Junior's iconJunior
Just a random kid
Chaz's icon
if you were sorry you wouldn't be doing this to me
Junior's iconJunior
idk man
I heard about fk and hf
and i wanted a gamertag
but i dont have enough money for one
so i did this
2 mins ago
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im sorry dude
Chaz's icon
i'm so sad right now
Junior's iconJunior
im sorry dude
Chaz's icon
please don't do this to me
i'm begging you
Junior's iconJunior
dude im SORRY
just always get PM verification before dealing
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i tried
i trusted you
i believed you
just now
Junior's iconJunior
:-(
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but them screenshots of grape and panda?
this person's paypal email is [email protected] and AIM: maximum.null.net - please let me know if you know who this person is.
Thank you for reading,
Chaz