Legalize Weed - My Thoughts

AnonMalice said:

disregarding my other posts, I would love for weed to be legalized and regulated because dealing with drug dealers all the time gets annoying as f*ck. Just saying and inb4 silk-road broo, everything on SR is horrible believe me I've spent plenty bc on there >.<

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Hah, yea.

OT: Feel free to thank me or give me rep for making you premium. =p

Who you buy premium for?!

eXero said:

Who you buy premium for?!

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A good number of people. lol

Zoo Ranger, Singer, Storm, AnonMalice, Reddoom, MeetmyArrow, Fes and Timer.

Initiative 502, which would legalize marijuana in Washington State, has recently been endorsed by the Sheriff of King Country. From the Seattle Times: [King County Sheriff Steve] Strachan, who is running for election, said Monday he would vote for I-502, which would “bring clarity” to the conflicting state and federal laws regarding marijuana. My state and the following of Colorado will probably be the first states which legalized marijuana.

jumping in late here...
I DON'T SMOKE..

but, the gov't needs money, therefore, tax it.. heavily. the problem in society is that that not a lot of people vote in the first place. maybe they should make it, so they HAVE to vote. that could actually resolve done issues

thats my 2 cents

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and a short follow-up, you can't take away someones right to vote, thats unconstitutional.

KingofKings said:

Initiative 502, which would legalize marijuana in Washington State, has recently been endorsed by the Sheriff of King Country. From the Seattle Times: [King County Sheriff Steve] Strachan, who is running for election, said Monday he would vote for I-502, which would “bring clarity” to the conflicting state and federal laws regarding marijuana. My state and the following of Colorado will probably be the first states which legalized marijuana.

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California already has. Well for the most part.

And that's only the sheriffs's thoughts. It still has to be approved by congress.

>And the people that have these cards should NOT be allowed to vote.

First amendment be damned!

Meetmyarrow said:

jumping in late here...
I DON'T SMOKE..

but, the gov't needs money, therefore, tax it.. heavily. the problem in society is that that not a lot of people vote in the first place. maybe they should make it, so they HAVE to vote. that could actually resolve done issues

thats my 2 cents

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and a short follow-up, you can't take away someones right to vote, thats unconstitutional.

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Taking away a very useful, natural resource should be just as unconstitutional considering the first law on this continent was to force people to grow industrial hemp, a close cousin of marijuana. Also the idea of making a moral value into law never works as different people have different moral values.

What does voting have to do with smoking weed?

I wouldn't really care if it was legalized, I don't smoke it, and I don't plan too. The main reason I don't is because I get caught with a lot of things, and I don't really feel like getting in some trouble with dat law.

If it was legalized, I'm sure just for lols I would try it but....Meh.

I was in Amsterdam last week, you can't walk around without smelling it, and all the people are fucked up, wouldnt support.

I wouldn't support it either, but so many people want it, and it eventually will happen, so if it must, I just thought that the right to vote in elections, specifically presidential, should be the compensation if you want to smoke weed that bad.

eXero said:

I wouldn't support it either, but so many people want it, and it eventually will happen, so if it must, I just thought that the right to vote in elections, specifically presidential, should be the compensation if you want to smoke weed that bad.

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When people see the effects then it will get out-voted.

Realise how MOST people that are stoners don't contribute to society?

Yeah I realize that. Stoners probably just draw an unemployment check.

And I realize that's a highly generalized statement, but it's true.

I think of it being like alcohol. Just like people shouldn't go around drinking alcohol all day long, people shouldn't be smoking weed all day long.

eXero said:

I wouldn't support it either, but so many people want it, and it eventually will happen, so if it must, I just thought that the right to vote in elections, specifically presidential, should be the compensation if you want to smoke weed that bad.

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Famous™ said:

I was in Amsterdam last week, you can't walk around without smelling it, and all the people are fucked up, wouldnt support.

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Let's take a look at history;
January 7, 1920 the 18th Amendment to the United States Constitution is now in effect. For those who don't know, that's the prohibition of alcohol. Following the 18th Amendment's adoption, prohibition effectively resulted in a public demand for illegal alcohol, making criminals of producers and consumers. The criminal justice system was swamped although police forces and courts had expanded in recent years. Prisons were jam-packed and court dockets were behind in trying to deal with the rapid surge in crimes. Organized crime expanded to deal with the lucrative business, and there was widespread corruption among those charged with enforcing unpopular laws. National prohibition of alcohol (1920-33)--the "noble experiment"--was undertaken to reduce crime and corruption,
solve social problems, reduce the tax burden created by prisons and poorhouses, and improve health and hygiene in
America. The results of that experiment clearly indicate that it was a miserable failure on all counts. The evidence
affirms sound economic theory, which predicts that prohibition of mutually beneficial exchanges is doomed to failure.
The lessons of Prohibition remain important today. They apply not only to the debate over the war on drugs but also to
the mounting efforts to drastically reduce access to alcohol and tobacco and to such issues as censorship and bans on
insider trading, abortion, and gambling.
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Although consumption of alcohol fell at the beginning of Prohibition, it subsequently increased. Alcohol became more
dangerous to consume; crime increased and became "organized"; the court and prison systems were stretched to the
breaking point; and corruption of public officials was rampant. No measurable gains were made in productivity or
reduced absenteeism. Prohibition removed a significant source of tax revenue and greatly increased government
spending. It led many drinkers to switch to opium, patent medicines, cocaine, and other dangerous
substances that they would have been unlikely to encounter in the absence of Prohibition. The same will continue to happen with any prohibition of something the masses want as bad as alcohol. The Prohibition of alcohol serves as a great example of why moral values of a person or group of people should not be forced on the entirety of the population by law. Those who don't agree will simply ignore it and act as if they're doing nothing wrong. Then again, why would you want the residing body of power telling you what you can and can't eat, drink, or consume in any other way?

That can't apply to everything though. Yes I think marijuana should be legalized. But other things definitely shouldn't, such as cocaine or heroin. Only time drugs like that should be used is for medical reasons (cocaine is used in sinus surgery). Drugs that can cause death by overdose or have extremely harmful effects (with no real benefits) shouldn't be legalized.

Deathcrow said:

That can't apply to everything though. Yes I think marijuana should be legalized. But other things definitely shouldn't, such as cocaine or heroin. Only time drugs like that should be used is for medical reasons (cocaine is used in sinus surgery). Drugs that can cause death by overdose or have extremely harmful effects (with no real benefits) shouldn't be legalized.

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The way I see it, if people want to fuck themselves up with heroin, fine they can deal with the withdrawals. For medical purposes? Lol heroin was the wonder drug back in the day, it was good for cold, cough, and pain. Cocaine? Same thing but it was the energy drink of it's day. Where do you think Coca-Cola came from? All I'm trying to say is that enforcing moral values through law is a terrible idea because those who don't agree will simply ignore it. Look at all the stoners, tokers, pot-heads, hippies, etc in the US alone right now. That's almost 50% of the adult population that will admit to smoking in the last month(June 2006)(I guarantee that number has gone up since).

Lol, I know about Coca-Cola and Pepsi. Coca-Cola, the name Coke is obvious. Pepsi got its name because it would give you "pep". (pep in your step)

But yea, I agree with you. You make a good point.

eXero said:

Yeah I realize that. Stoners probably just draw an unemployment check.

And I realize that's a highly generalized statement, but it's true.

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LOL. That is not true what so ever.

Yes, there are stoners who just sit around and be lazy as fuck, but there are also stoners that do things with their life.

People in my school who smoke weed, are actually very successful. Not all, but most of them are. My one friend has been smoking weed for the past 2 years. He's now going to a top notch school for sports, has a job, and manages to get good grades.

So no, your generalized statement, is not true.