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This shit is ridiculous, if any of you have seen the duck dynasty series. I admit i have , it semi-retarded. They believe in Christianity, Which everyone knows which is fine and dandy. But the minute a guy (Phil robertson) says he doensn't support homosexuality, because its a sin. The world goes rampant, saying he's a gay hater and shit. Not once did he say " I hate gays, or Gays should or will go to hell". So because of this they suspended him from the show.

I have nothing against gays, i know gay people and im friends with them. But i don't support it, and apparently thats horrible by societies rules.

The world we live in : You say you're gay, media and world loves you. Say you're a christian, and you're forcing religion on someone and your a radical and no one wants to hear it.
 

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I agree with you. I honestly don't see why it's such a shocker that a person raised in the deep south in the bible belt in the 60's is homophobic (or racist in the case of Paula Deen)
 

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I agree with you. I honestly don't see why it's such a shocker that a person raised in the deep south in the bible belt in the 60's is homophobic (or racist in the case of Paula Deen)

He's not homophobic, he even said i love all people after this all happened. But he said he wouldn't back down from what he said.
 

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I know but people are acting as if he is and are overreacting
 

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Bones said:
I know but people are acting as if he is and are overreacting

Exactly, but thats how it is i guess.
Question to pro gays: Whats the difference between the US being pro Gay ? When in the middle east almost in entirety is Pro - young marriage ( Marrying little kids as old as 9 and getting them pregnant)?

I don't approve of either.
 

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California said:
Exactly, but thats how it is i guess.
Question to pro gays: Whats the difference between the US being pro Gay ? When in the middle east almost in entirety is Pro - young marriage ( Marrying little kids as old as 9 and getting them pregnant)?

I don't approve of either.

You mean as YOUNG as 9. lmao if 9 was the cap, we'd REALLY have an issue here.

But yeah, the world's all fucked up. I'm not a redneck, but I completely accept the Robinsons and what they're about. What's the big fuckin deal? Your subject title speaks volumes. Liberal media is forcing the gay agenda down our throats and I'm honestly getting sick of it. The network that took over G4TV shows like 50% gays on their show, like that's an actual fucking percentage. 4% of the world is gay. 15% of the world is secular/atheist. That leaves 96% straights and 85% believers. I don't understand how the liberal media has made it seem like the vast majority of mankind is against Phil Robinson, because it's the polar opposite of that. I know many liberal Democrats (myself included) and I fully support the rights of all people, but not at the cost of our constitutional rights. The world isn't as black and white as they want it to seem, though. I know a lot of Democrats who oppose gay marriage. It's the labels that are ruining the world's view of us.

And inb4 Cann!bal or someone chimes in against Christians; People like this represent the minority of Christians. I know some of the younger, more religious people I know and they have many gay friends and fully accept them and support their equality. This is NOT a religious issue so much as it's the liberal media networks trying to force feed gay culture down our fucking throats. <3.
 

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First off if you watched the video of him preaching at the church he does say that these "sinners" will go to hell. And he does talk alot about gay sex and how its against morals of god and christians like himself. I personally support gays/lesbians I don't care because in all honesty it doesn't affect me and it doesn't hurt anybody. But I don't understand why everyone is getting so upset about this remark the man is only exercising his first amendment which is freedom of speech. Personally I respect him even more now due to him coming out and saying this.
 

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Yeah people need to chill. People are saying Macklemore is going to win every grammy this year just cause he supports gay marriage and made a song about it. And if he does then smh lol.
 

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Gay people are humans, too. They should be fully supported in every way, no matter what. There is nothing else to it.
 

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Leader said:
Gay people are humans, too. They should be fully supported in every way, no matter what. There is nothing else to it.

Leader stop actin like were making gays slaves.
 

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California said:
Leader stop actin like were making gays slaves.

How did you get that from my post? They are humans, and are treated as if they are not. They are bullied, denied rights, and are portrayed as scapegoats. That is not how you treat other humans. I think that people need re-learn the "Golden Rule".
 

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Old news, but yes, I agree it's ridiculous. I don't mind people's sexuality, but the bullshit how people get offended so easily is too much. People need to take it down a notch and do as they preach: allow each their own.


Hollywood said:
Yeah people need to chill. People are saying Macklemore is going to win every grammy this year just cause he supports gay marriage and made a song about it. And if he does then smh lol.

Or maybe he will because he's a great artist and always has been. His songs have meaning unlike many others. You can't bash him for being real.
 

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I think Phil Robertson's suspension was unjust. (However, I think the whole suspension was probably a ratings stunt anyways. They're now more popular than ever now.) He should have never received a temporary suspension for voicing his beliefs. It contradicts his rights, as an American citizen. However, if his network would have permanently shunned him, I would have understood, because it's well within their rights to not want an ignorant bigot to represent them.

California said:
Exactly, but thats how it is i guess.
Question to pro gays: Whats the difference between the US being pro Gay ? When in the middle east almost in entirety is Pro - young marriage ( Marrying little kids as old as 9 and getting them pregnant)?

I don't approve of either.

That question was articulated poorly, however, I'll attempt answer it to the best of my abilities.

Firstly, the entirety of the Middle East is not pro-adolescent marriage and sex.

The Middle East is a chiefly impoverished and ignorant world, and activism is looked down upon. Their laws and guidelines are dictated by their religious and traditional principles and values. Hence, ignorance reigns. However, in America, we are an educated and informed world. Hence, being an ignorant bigot in America, especially when famous, will consequentially have an adverse response. Not very surprisingly, Phil Robertson is from the Bible Belt, America's most ill educated and uninformed sector.

(I'm against arranged marriages and adolescent marriages because there's ill consent. A youth is too young physically and mentally to be sexually active. A child's and a parent's consent to an adolescent marriage is invalid.)

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You mean as YOUNG as 9. lmao if 9 was the cap, we'd REALLY have an issue here.

But yeah, the world's all fucked up. I'm not a redneck, but I completely accept the Robinsons and what they're about. What's the big fuckin deal? Your subject title speaks volumes. Liberal media is forcing the gay agenda down our throats and I'm honestly getting sick of it. The network that took over G4TV shows like 50% gays on their show, like that's an actual fucking percentage. 4% of the world is gay. 15% of the world is secular/atheist. That leaves 96% straights and 85% believers. I don't understand how the liberal media has made it seem like the vast majority of mankind is against Phil Robinson, because it's the polar opposite of that. I know many liberal Democrats (myself included) and I fully support the rights of all people, but not at the cost of our constitutional rights. The world isn't as black and white as they want it to seem, though. I know a lot of Democrats who oppose gay marriage. It's the labels that are ruining the world's view of us.

And inb4 Cann!bal or someone chimes in against Christians; People like this represent the minority of Christians. I know some of the younger, more religious people I know and they have many gay friends and fully accept them and support their equality. This is NOT a religious issue so much as it's the liberal media networks trying to force feed gay culture down our fucking throats. <3.

I'm not against Christians, I'm against religion. There's a major distinction to be made there. It's the actions and beliefs of the religious I detest, henceforth, it doesn't matter if they represent the minority of Christians.

Today's youth is so secular and protestant, that it's somewhat fallacious to even call them by their religious labels, since they follow an insignificantly trivial amount of what their scripture dictates. They're more secular than religious. No one follows the scripture to the core.

This is indeed a religious issue. This anti-homosexual bigotry is of fault of religion. There would be essentially no intolerance of homosexuals if it was not dictated in religious scripture. Religion is the root and justification of all things wrong. In ancient Greece, homosexuality was a practiced and accepted act. Not until modern religion reigned did it stop being accepted.
 

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Cann!bal said:
I think Phil Robertson's suspension was unjust. (However, I think the whole suspension was probably a ratings stunt anyways. They're now more popular than ever now.) He should have never received a temporary suspension for voicing his beliefs. It contradicts his rights, as an American citizen. However, if his network would have permanently shunned him, I would have understood, because it's well within their rights to not want an ignorant bigot to represent them.


That question was articulated poorly, however, I'll attempt answer it to the best of my abilities.

Firstly, the entirety of the Middle East is not pro-adolescent marriage and sex.

The Middle East is a chiefly impoverished and ignorant world, and activism is looked down upon. Their laws and guidelines are dictated by their religious and traditional principles and values. Hence, ignorance reigns. However, in America, we are an educated and informed world. Hence, being an ignorant bigot in America, especially when famous, will consequentially have an adverse response. Not very surprisingly, Phil Robertson is from the Bible Belt, America's most ill educated and uninformed sector.

(I'm against arranged marriages and adolescent marriages because there's ill consent. A youth is too young physically and mentally to be sexually active. A child's and a parent's consent to an adolescent marriage is invalid.)


I'm not against Christians, I'm against religion. There's a major distinction to be made there. It's the actions and beliefs of the religious I detest, henceforth, it doesn't matter if they represent the minority of Christians.

Today's youth is so secular and protestant, that it's somewhat fallacious to even call them by their religious labels, since they follow an insignificantly trivial amount of what their scripture dictates. They're more secular than religious. No one follows the scripture to the core.

This is indeed a religious issue. This anti-homosexual bigotry is of fault of religion. There would be essentially no intolerance of homosexuals if it was not dictated in religious scripture. Religion is the root and justification of all things wrong.

I'm not getting into a religion debate tonight. I was partially kidding, :p. Like Phil Robinson's views or not, you have to respect him for standing up for his beliefs. It's the most basic fundamental freedom we have, imo, and he's well within his rights to exercise it. Dog the Bounty Hunter went through something similar with the NAACP over some racist comments. That whole thing was taken out of context, as we later found out. I'm NOT comparing gays to black people, because gays were never forced into slavery and all the persecution that followed for many decades. I'm going to play my Christian card here and say that the Jesus I follow taught me to love and accept all of my brothers and sisters. To hate the sin, not the sinner. He preached this at great length during the last supper and several times throughout his life. When he saved the condemned prostitute (let he who is without sin cast the first stone), he told her to change her ways and gtfo (set her free). A disciple of Christ's job is to point out someone's moral flaws, but at the same time, show them compassion and equality as men/women of this Earth. I'm not calling Phil Robinson Jesus by any means, but he was well within his religious rights to make the comments he did, not to mention his first amendment rights.

In short; I accept all people. I have and will speak my mind when it conflicts with me own beliefs, but I will never condemn or pass judgment on a person. It's completely ok to judge the sin, but not the sinner, as I said. I'm not as imbedded in the religion as Christianity as Phil Robinson, but share many of his values. I know that homosexuality isn't natural. Leviticus calls it a sin, but people that choose to partake in gay sex will have to deal with the Maker, not me, as I simply won't pass judgment. Have all the butt sex you want in your own home, but leave it there. 95% of my straight friends refrain from talking about their sex lives, but 0% of my gay friends do :/ lol.

For me, being gay isn't a bad thing. But when a man talks like a girl, acts like a girl and has to be outspokenly flamboyant about his homosexuality, he should expect to not be accepted by the whole of society. And back on point, the liberal media whores out all of these pro-gay television shows and generally only showcases the hardcore flamboyant fem-gays. And it's something that's only recently started becoming mainstream in our society. We had gay movie stars from the 50s-70s, but barely any of them were fem-gays. Rock Hudson=Man's man. Mr. Brady=America's gay (lol). Yeah, you had people like Freddie Mercury and Elton John, who are 2 of my all-time favorite musicians that acted a little out of the closet, but neither of them were 'that' flamboyant off-stage. If you watch interviews of them at their homes, they come off as normal talking men. No lisps, no wrist flicking, no pinky raising. I'm not sure when it became so glamorized, but it's almost to the point where I can't even watch TV anymore. Esquire, Bravo, E!, HGTV, TVGN are the worst. This pro-gay agenda has got to go. We're accepting them as a whole, but enough's enough. If they want to get married, let them get married (as is happening all across the world now), but stop acting like fucking victims. If they didn't insist on acting like girls, they wouldn't be persecuted against. And for that, I place the blame solely on them. If you have a dick and it gets hard enough for you to stick in someone's butt hole, you're a man, act like it.
 

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Moved to correct section.
 

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He is a gay hater. He compared them to terrorists and said they would murder us all. Do your research next time. He also stated blacks during the mcarthy era weren't being persecuted because they "didn't complain about it to him". I do admit i started watching the show and its quite entertaining but i don't think they should have suspended him from the show. It's not lile he went on gay rants on the show.
 

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You couldn't have said it better OP, fuck the media, Jesus brought us here!
 
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