No more religious referencing in debates forum

[Solidify]

I can only assume that some of you are tired of reading a debate topic and having to see someone's argument beginning with Because God is the one that can decide [...], which is why I move that the debate forum have a new rule that forbids any references to religion. My justification can be found 'here'.

Here is the biggest problem about debate topics. I hate the way people aren't able to justify their case without bringing their personal beliefs, morals and values into question. The more unbiased your argument is, the more convincing it will be. Here's another way I'll make you understand it. If you're trying to make a Catholic Christian feel the same way about you about this topic by saying that God gives us life only once, sure, they may believe you. But what about the rest of the population that isn't Christian and doesn't believe is such a God? Having said that, what I'm trying to stress is that the more realistic the terms of your argument are, the more people it can apply to. That is why in the court of law, there is no referencing to anyone's particular belief system. If we can make this debate section function that way, I can guarantee that the debate arguments will be much more provocative.

Cast your vote above and if need be, leave a comment below.

 

[Steezy_mybb_import12761]

I can agree with this completely.

To me, a debate is an unbiased discussion about a controversial topic... hell, it doesn't even need to be controversial in order to "debate" about it.

An argument on the other hand could be comprised of your own personal beliefs/thoughts.

Some people get lost in the difference between a debate and an argument. That is why you see many people bringing in opinions rather than facts. Don't get me wrong, you're allowed to have an opinion in a debate, but it should not be put forward as a valid point when debating a subject.

Eliminating the fact that people wont be allowed to bring their religious views into debates will help eliminate the arguing and bring it back to an actual debate. I've noticed once somebody does this anyways, it leads the thread completely off topic and next thing you know, you have people arguing about something completely different.

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

I'd have to disagree with this one. Some people believe that they will be judged by a superior or god in their afterlife. That fear of doing wrong may be someones reasoning for an action.

 

[Solidify]

I'd have to disagree with this one. Some people believe that they will be judged by a superior or god in their afterlife. That fear of doing wrong may be someones reasoning for an action.

Then they just have to stay out of the debate forum. Logical is irrefutable. Religion isn't. Each religion contradicts one another which is why I find any of them hard to believe entirely.

By all means, members can continue to be religious and maintain their beliefs but all I'm asking is to not eat where they shit and shit where they eat. Keep religion apart from debates because it can be disproved almost instantly since religious arguments have no validity. They're just theories.

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

I'm not sure if here is the right place to debate the validity of a god or gods if its not let me know and I'll remove my post. You say that religion can be disproved instantly but I could say the same to atheism.

 

[Solidify]

I'm not sure if here is the right place to debate the validity of a god or gods if its not let me know and I'll remove my post. You say that religion can be disproved instantly but I could say the same to atheism.

I never said anything about atheism. I was referring to agnosticism. Atheism is stressing that there is no god, which is just as hard to prove. However, agnosticism don't believe in anything because there isn't enough irrefutable proofs to make a foolproof choice. That is why agnosticism is the more logical alternative. Until there's incontrovertible proof that God does or doesn't exist, I, the agnostic have the most logical POV and I utilize it this POV in my debates.

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

I misunderstood your previous paragraph then I thought you were mocking theists therefore asserting no belief in a god (multiple forms of agnosticism) I personally hold Deist views though I don't associate myself with the religion. Though I tend to keep religion out of my arguments if it comes up those are my believes. On another note I don't think any group can argue they are the logical or "smart" ones in the argument

 

[Solidify]

I misunderstood your previous paragraph then I thought you were mocking theists therefore asserting no belief in a god (multiple forms of agnosticism) I personally hold Deist views though I don't associate myself with the religion. Though I tend to keep religion out of my arguments if it comes up those are my believes. On another note I don't think any group can argue they are the logical or "smart" ones in the argument

Listen man, I didn't ask for your life story and wasn't talking specifically to you. If I was, I would have PM'd you. This topic is for everyone to take it. You don't have to confirm with me. I'm not your master.

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

Well on the idea of life stories you were the one who shared with me.
"Cast your vote above and if need be, leave a comment below."
I casted my vote and I left my comment. You replied to my comment initiating me into the conversation. At no point did I say I'd confirm my thoughts with yours or attempt to. I'm guessing its that time of the month so I'll just be gone now. Have a good night

 

[Solidify]

Well on the idea of life stories you were the one who shared with me.
"Cast your vote above and if need be, leave a comment below."
I casted my vote and I left my comment. You replied to my comment initiating me into the conversation. At no point did I say I'd confirm my thoughts with yours or attempt to. I'm guessing its that time of the month so I'll just be gone now. Have a good night

Time of the month? I'm sure you know I'm a guy so I'm guessing you were trying to be funny when you said that. :uhoh:

Night.

 

[Solidify]

Back on-topic; bumping this thread to gain attention. I'm eager to see how this turns out.

 

[Mc. Donalds]

Agreed.

God doesn't exist, so no need to fill the debate with your religious crap.

 

[Joel_mybb_import15139]

We all have our religious views. Arguing definitely won't get us anywhere because in our mind we are right, and we're willing to debate that to the end.
Debates are made of facts, the only facts most religions have is the bible, fact? Many could debate that, but we won't. (Or at least i hope not)

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Agreed.

God doesn't exist, so no need to fill the debate with your religious crap.

Like what the hell man, we're trying not to start a debate, and you literally said the one stupid thing that is going to start one.
EDIT: Just realized your in Angels, technically god is your father and your creator

 

[Solidify]

Agreed.

God doesn't exist, so no need to fill the debate with your religious crap.

There's no need for that down-talk here man. Everyone is entitled to their own religious theories and perspectives. All this topic is asking is for those ideas and views to be distinguished from debating professionally. Reason and logic are much more provocative means of arguing than using belief systems.

If I catch you dismissing or refuting like that again, I'll be sure to involve staff.