ttomthebomb said:I was thinking a tree but it originated from another tree and etc;
Mattis13 said:but what if we DIDN'T invent time, what if time invented us? what if we are just the byproduct of elapsed time of multiple happenings in a chain of events? wouldn't the real question then be what caused time? what set it in motion in the first place?
Mattis13 said:But not necessarily. All we really did was realize it was there, the passing of time occurred before we even gave it the title of "time"
Mattis13 said:But as you yourself said, it is a thing to be measured, something has to exist in the first place before you can even conceive measuring it
Mattis13 said:But as you yourself said, it is a thing to be measured, something has to exist in the first place before you can even conceive measuring it
Adam said:Allow me to rephrase myself. What I'm saying, is that we invented the concept of time. A theoretical metronome clicking along side the universe keeping everything in balance, telling us when to wake up in the morning and get to work. We chose to base this on the passing of the sun, but only because it made sense to do it that way. We very well could have made "days" 29 house, but that wouldn't have made very much sense now would it? I think that in the beginning, time was a label of solar movement. But it has changed, to a method of organization and is no longer bound by the turning of the earth, and only happens to align with it. Does that make any sense?
Adam said:Allow me to rephrase myself. What I'm saying, is that we invented the concept of time. A theoretical metronome clicking along side the universe keeping everything in balance, telling us when to wake up in the morning and get to work. We chose to base this on the passing of the sun, but only because it made sense to do it that way. We very well could have made "days" 29 house, but that wouldn't have made very much sense now would it? I think that in the beginning, time was a label of solar movement. But it has changed, to a method of organization and is no longer bound by the turning of the earth, and only happens to align with it. Does that make any sense?
Mattis13 said:Adam said:Allow me to rephrase myself. What I'm saying, is that we invented the concept of time. A theoretical metronome clicking along side the universe keeping everything in balance, telling us when to wake up in the morning and get to work. We chose to base this on the passing of the sun, but only because it made sense to do it that way. We very well could have made "days" 29 house, but that wouldn't have made very much sense now would it? I think that in the beginning, time was a label of solar movement. But it has changed, to a method of organization and is no longer bound by the turning of the earth, and only happens to align with it. Does that make any sense?
I must say that I applaud you for this. though, the waking up and going to work doesn't pertain to a universal metronome, but an internal one called the circadian rhythm, and that is honestly the only retort I can make to this, well done.
Knight said:Adam said:Allow me to rephrase myself. What I'm saying, is that we invented the concept of time. A theoretical metronome clicking along side the universe keeping everything in balance, telling us when to wake up in the morning and get to work. We chose to base this on the passing of the sun, but only because it made sense to do it that way. We very well could have made "days" 29 house, but that wouldn't have made very much sense now would it? I think that in the beginning, time was a label of solar movement. But it has changed, to a method of organization and is no longer bound by the turning of the earth, and only happens to align with it. Does that make any sense?
It would have made sense if we made it that way. Time is still a label of solar movement, we just base our activities around on a system that is parallel with it. You are contradicting yourself by saying that it is no longer affiliated with the turning of the earth but is aligned with it as well. Using your logic; days were not days until we made them such. Logically speaking, we could have had 28 houses in the month of February; had humanity declared it such.
Adam said:Allow me to rephrase myself. What I'm saying, is that we invented the concept of time. A theoretical metronome clicking along side the universe keeping everything in balance, telling us when to wake up in the morning and get to work. We chose to base this on the passing of the sun, but only because it made sense to do it that way. We very well could have made "days" 29 house, but that wouldn't have made very much sense now would it? I think that in the beginning, time was a label of solar movement. But it has changed, to a method of organization and is no longer bound by the turning of the earth, and only happens to align with it. Does that make any sense?
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