Duh, though, I know it's cheaper. Google "living on $4 a day vegan". It is cheaper.Shift said:One account does not disprove or prove, it is just an opinion.
Where I live it is more expensive to buy organic and even some vegan rather than "regular" food.
Animals are only tortured in large raising operations while smaller ones tend to treat them better.
As long as the blade is sharp enough to cut through vital parts then the animal should feel no pain.
Comparing an animal to a human ? ripCann!bal said:Duh, though, I know it's cheaper. Google "living on $4 a day vegan". It is cheaper.
Animals are not only tortured in large raising operations. Watch Earthlings if you really think that. Do you really think slaveowners treated their slaves with humanely with respect and kindness? No, of course not. Connect the dots.
Why does it become okay just because it's painless (which it rarely is)? If I slip a girl a date rape drug and rape her it doesn't become humane and just because she felt no pain. Like I said, you can't humanely do anything while simultaneously violating a being's rights.
What makes animals deserving of being tortured and killed for consumption? Why are their desires invalid but ours aren't?
Yeah, what makes us so special? What makes their desires to live, to prosper, and to be free of pain and suffering invalid? What gives us the right to torture and murder these animals?Shift said:Comparing an animal to a human ? rip
Shift said:Humans run this bitch ok
Cann!bal said:It is very clear to us that veganism people's lives by years.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12936945
http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2006/1/awsi/Page-01
It can be, like I've gotten people to say humane rape exists and that they're fine with the mentally inept being tortured and murdered just so they can defend eating animal products. However, I've met some open-minded people. I've already got three people to go vegan since September, but getting people to think about the consequences of their food is enough for me.kyle said:preaching veganism on a forum is like talking to a brick wall
If someone you knew was destroying their health, the environment and torturing and murdering animals you obviously wouldn't say opposition is wrong, so don't give this shit about how taking opposition against people's food preferences is wrong.Professor said:In all seriousness, back the fuck off of people for what they choose to eat. YOU aren't making a difference. You're an insignificant speck on a much larger spectrum. The large spectrum matters because it's backed by evidence and evidence is not random numbers being thrown around with no supportive documentation or evidence. The large spectrum affects congress. You telling 12-year-olds with no voting power that they're ruining the earth because they get their daily suggested amount of protein does.not.do.shit except make everybody roll their eyes when they see the jokers like you take a position. You're being played with by the strings of the people who make you think what they want you to think by telling you what they know you're going to ignorantly accept.
Moreover, I'll eat all the steak I want and there isn't shit you can do about it. Why? I have the fucking right to.
Cann!bal said:It can be, like I've gotten people to say humane rape exists and that they're fine with the mentally inept being tortured and murdered just so they can defend eating animal products. However, I've met some open-minded people. I've already got three people to go vegan since September, but getting people to think about the consequences of their food is enough for me.
If someone you knew was destroying their health, the environment and torturing and murdering animals you obviously wouldn't say opposition is wrong, so don't give this shit about how taking opposition against people's food preferences is wrong.
What unsupported proof? I'll provide evidence to everything I claim.
Congress won't be significantly effected if everyone still thinks destroying the planet and murdering billions of animals for an unsustainable and unhealthy meal is justified.
Vegans are not deficient in protein. Though truthfully, we are deficient in three nutrients, but the average omnivore is deficient in seven! And we share two of them. http://nutritionfacts.org/video/omnivore-vs-vegan-nutrient-deficiencies-2/
What gives you the right to torture and murder animals? Why are their desires to live, to prosper, and to be free of pain and suffering invalid but ours aren't? What makes us so fucking special?
You don't understand? It's pretty simple. Let me reduce it down for you.Julian said:[img=450x200]http://38.media.tumblr.com/4c9949290ee3033a4a869f301d07d6fe/tumblr_n2o29vO03B1rtpm86o1_250.gif[/img]
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Julian said:I see, kill the animals mate. Meat is great
Good job for being intellectually honest with yourself. Lots of people aren't when it comes to veganism.Julian said:This video made me cry, literally. I never really looked into how much these beautiful animals are tortured and slaughtered. I would try to become a vegan but i don't believe i have the budget to do so. I don't think my Parents would understand either and would want to buy pure vegan food. I'm only 15 By the way.
@Cann!bal
sorry for being so ignorant earlier man.
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