eXero said:Millionaire rappers do crack (assuming) yet their quality of life is amazing? Better than most people. What are you saying? A baby that is not born yet, how can you determine how life is going to be? In the video it talks about down's syndrome.
AaronOliver1993 said:Also the bit about "You think you'd end up in hell?" was a bit much,
also this guy is a jew, wtf is he preaching jesus about?
And what if god doesn't exist? Then there is no judgement day, and no one goes to hell.
What if there is no god? Think.
That's completely religion based. Your opinion on abortion can be in direct influence from your religion.
Cubs said:He would if you're truly sorry. If you kill and just walk off thinking your automatically saved you aren't. If you go home and pray for forgiveness and truly mean it, you would be forgiven. And by truly being sorry you wouldn't do it again, just pointing that out.
eXero said:You seem very one-sided about your opinions. Be your own person, and think for yourself.
Dykerosoft said:I believe in morality, which is doing right regardless of what I am told.. not in religion which is doing what I am told regardless of what is right. You’re welcome to your own interpretation of the bible and of politics, of course, but for me, I need more than “the bible says so” to justify certain things in this world.
AaronOliver1993 said:Dykerosoft said:I believe in morality, which is doing right regardless of what I am told.. not in religion which is doing what I am told regardless of what is right. You’re welcome to your own interpretation of the bible and of politics, of course, but for me, I need more than “the bible says so” to justify certain things in this world.
Not to mention it's not as if it was hand written by "god,"
It was written by prophets, and disciples,
AND it was translated at least 20 times from the original text,
the catholic church changed it around because no one could read it,
they made it say what they wanted.
Ex, YOU'RE the one not thinking for yourself, religion is like a pair of shackles. I believe in god, but i do what I think is right, not what i'm told, like dyker said.
Cubs said:AaronOliver1993 said:Dykerosoft said:I believe in morality, which is doing right regardless of what I am told.. not in religion which is doing what I am told regardless of what is right. You’re welcome to your own interpretation of the bible and of politics, of course, but for me, I need more than “the bible says so” to justify certain things in this world.
Not to mention it's not as if it was hand written by "god,"
It was written by prophets, and disciples,
AND it was translated at least 20 times from the original text,
the catholic church changed it around because no one could read it,
they made it say what they wanted.
Ex, YOU'RE the one not thinking for yourself, religion is like a pair of shackles. I believe in god, but i do what I think is right, not what i'm told, like dyker said.
It's actually the Inspired Word of God. It was written through man, but inspired by God.
Although I agree with the translation, so much has been changed and different views are taken.
AaronOliver1993 said:Cubs said:AaronOliver1993 said:Not to mention it's not as if it was hand written by "god,"
It was written by prophets, and disciples,
AND it was translated at least 20 times from the original text,
the catholic church changed it around because no one could read it,
they made it say what they wanted.
Ex, YOU'RE the one not thinking for yourself, religion is like a pair of shackles. I believe in god, but i do what I think is right, not what i'm told, like dyker said.
It's actually the Inspired Word of God. It was written through man, but inspired by God.
Although I agree with the translation, so much has been changed and different views are taken.
You don't even know what it was translated from.
And you know who else says his work was inspired by god?
Kanye West.
How old are you by the way?
Cubs said:AaronOliver1993 said:Cubs said:It's actually the Inspired Word of God. It was written through man, but inspired by God.
Although I agree with the translation, so much has been changed and different views are taken.
You don't even know what it was translated from.
And you know who else says his work was inspired by god?
Kanye West.
How old are you by the way?
It was translated from Greek and Latin I believe.
And I just turned 15 2 or so weeks ago.
Dykerosoft said:Wait, so Kanye Wests songs are all mini bibles?
Dykerosoft said:Wait, so Kanye Wests songs are all mini bibles?
AaronOliver1993 said:Cubs said:AaronOliver1993 said:You don't even know what it was translated from.
And you know who else says his work was inspired by god?
Kanye West.
How old are you by the way?
It was translated from Greek and Latin I believe.
And I just turned 15 2 or so weeks ago.
Not originally, it was some Arabic language, seeing as it was written about Jesus, who was from Nazareth, which is in the middle east.
And just because you know what LANGUAGE it was translated from doesn't mean you know what the original documents said.
You have no idea what was changed or how much of it could have been lost.
Dykerosoft said:Wait, so Kanye Wests songs are all mini bibles?
Yes.
I honestly think they have better translators than Google Trans.Dykerosoft said:Original text:
"Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness."
...10 translations later Google gives us:
"Those who sow in peace peasemakers look around."
(I took a random quote from the bible)
Look what 10 translations has done. Only 10.
Dykerosoft said:Original text:
"Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness."
...10 translations later Google gives us:
"Those who sow in peace peasemakers look around."
(I took a random quote from the bible)
Look what 10 translations has done. Only 10.
I honestly think they have better translators than Google Trans.Dykerosoft said:Original text:
"Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness."
...10 translations later Google gives us:
"Those who sow in peace peasemakers look around."
(I took a random quote from the bible)
Look what 10 translations has done. Only 10.
AaronOliver1993 said:Dykerosoft said:Original text:
"Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness."
...10 translations later Google gives us:
"Those who sow in peace peasemakers look around."
(I took a random quote from the bible)
Look what 10 translations has done. Only 10.
My point exactly, what if the bible, was written without ANY reference to god, just a set of stories of a righteous man, who was used as an example for us to aspire to be?
What if at the beginning or end of the bible it said "This is all fictitious, take from it what you may,"?
Cubs said:AaronOliver1993 said:Dykerosoft said:Original text:
"Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness."
...10 translations later Google gives us:
"Those who sow in peace peasemakers look around."
(I took a random quote from the bible)
Look what 10 translations has done. Only 10.
My point exactly, what if the bible, was written without ANY reference to god, just a set of stories of a righteous man, who was used as an example for us to aspire to be?
What if at the beginning or end of the bible it said "This is all fictitious, take from it what you may,"?
Then I would have to say it's pretty amazing how consistent it is, spanning over 100's of years with different languages and over 20 authors made this, yet they all agree with each other and they all lead to 1 purpose.
Cubs said:So um @Guessing words. If they aren't sure about the word, they actually leave it alone.
EX, Genesis 6:4 uses the word Nephilim meaning giant. People took this to mean giants 20 feet high, but it actually refers to men bigger than normal, but not that big. So they left that alone with translating.
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