Scamming in the community

[DepicT]

I feel this needs to be addressed, even coming from me someone who has only seen such a short amount of time of Forum Korner I can already tell right now times are getting very rough sketchy, and there are a lot of ''respected names'' scamming out, and just scam's in general going on. Everyday I have come online to see multiple scam reports, and or attempted scams that are getting caught (thankfully).

However, there are way too many scams that are going on, and I am seeing some people try to throw shade toward Forum Korner as a whole in a negative demeanor which is not correct at all. This community does have a handful of very honorable and reputable people that have put forth a lot of time and money into this community. At the end of the day, I have noticed that majority of users have huge ego problems, and as important as reputation and honor is, doesn't mean you can just let your ego get the best of you and act out of line.

I feel the 'Middle Man' position is really being disregarded and left out in a day-to-day basis here in FK, everyone has too big of an ego to want to use one, because they don't trust etc etc.
Currently there is the rank "Verified" which requires you to submit extensive personal information that binds to you given if you ever become malicious you have A LOT to lose.

I think that we should start implementing a modification to this rank and turn it into an official/unofficial 'Middle Man' rank, where people will be picked out and chosen to do so, as to be Middle Men for FK. If any transaction worth batting an eyelash over always had a middle man involved, I can absolutely guarantee that majority (80%+) of scams will come to a halt for certain.

I think all of this needed to be said, because I have just seen the scams get progressively worse and more reputable names becoming malicious, and it all really can be prevented no matter what.

Discuss ~ Thoughts ~

cc: @Philly

 

[Divinitive]

I feel this needs to be addressed, even coming from me someone who has only seen such a short amount of time of Forum Korner I can already tell right now times are getting very rough sketchy, and there are a lot of ''respected names'' scamming out, and just scam's in general going on. Everyday I have come online to see multiple scam reports, and or attempted scams that are getting caught (thankfully).

However, there are way too many scams that are going on, and I am seeing some people try to throw shade toward Forum Korner as a whole in a negative demeanor which is not correct at all. This community does have a handful of very honorable and reputable people that have put forth a lot of time and money into this community. At the end of the day, I have noticed that majority of users have huge ego problems, and as important as reputation and honor is, doesn't mean you can just let your ego get the best of you and act out of line.

I feel the 'Middle Man' position is really being disregarded and left out in a day-to-day basis here in FK, everyone has too big of an ego to want to use one, because they don't trust etc etc.
Currently there is the rank "Verified" which requires you to submit extensive personal information that binds to you given if you ever become malicious you have A LOT to lose.

I think that we should start implementing a modification to this rank and turn it into an official/unofficial 'Middle Man' rank, where people will be picked out and chosen to do so, as to be Middle Men for FK. If any transaction worth batting an eyelash over always had a middle man involved, I can absolutely guarantee that majority (80%+) of scams will come to a halt for certain.

I think all of this needed to be said, because I have just seen the scams get progressively worse and more reputable names becoming malicious, and it all really can be prevented no matter what.

Discuss ~ Thoughts ~

cc: @Philly

Definitely a great idea OP, but i don't think an MM should be required. Purely because that very well might deter lots of deals from the site as a whole. Overall I like the idea, great suggestion.

 

[Animation]

Scamming has become a real big problem if you have not noticed it or not and i'm glad you brought this up because I was going to people DON'T SCAM OTHER'S YOUR FUCKED UP IF YOU DO THAT. There's no need for it and on this forum we don't have room or time for it. I mean look what happen to @Space today. Do you guys want that to happen to you? No. So just stop and be a better person.

 

[DepicT]

@Divinitive, I didn't say that a MM were to be required, but if we had a small 'team' of people that had some sort of actual credibility, and were on and available at all times, there would be absolute NO EXCUSE to not use one, and nobody can ever really blame anyone else but themself for a scam.

 

[Divinitive]

@Divinitive, I didn't say that a MM were to be required, but if we had a small 'team' of people that had some sort of actual credibility, and were on and available at all times, there would be absolute NO EXCUSE to not use one, and nobody can ever really blame anyone else but themself for a scam.

I agree, but in my mind anyone who gets scammed has nobody to blame but themselves for how they approached that deal. Using a middleman is always a failsafe, and I am questioning how some people can throw around thousands of dollars to someone online without any middleman. I don't care how trusted the person is, I will be using a middleman that is either an admin or site owner for deals in the upper hundreds.

 

[gunnar]

a false sense of trust or no trust at all is the big issue
also that so many accounts are compromised/"compromised"

 

[DepicT]

a false sense of trust or no trust at all is the big issue
also that so many accounts are compromised/"compromised"

This is also an issue that is very hard to fix or have a solution for. Multi-factor authentication login maybe? Other than that, it's up to the members to keep their accounts secure.

 

[Hurt]

It would be silly to turn Verified into the 'Middle Man' rank because such a rank already exists.
-       i.e Middle Man Rank
I'm unaware of whether @Philly still uses this rank or not, but if not than he should bring it back.
Only users that have earned the right of being a middle man as determined by Philly should be allowed to MM deals on-site, otherwise they are to find an off-site MM and risk being scammed.

If Philly was to bring back the Middle Man rank and implement my idea, it could decrease the amount of scams that occur on this site. Users should always use a Middle Man, unless dealing with a member they trust and ARE 100% SURE IS THEM and NOT a compromised account.

I am not sure why so many users blame ForumKorner as a whole for their losses because scams occur on every other site, and thousands of times a day in the real world outside of the internet.
Hopefully users around here smarten up and consider using trusted middlemen for their deals, rather than just go blindly into large deals with people they may even slightly doubt.

 

[Hurt]

I don't think the middleman rank was ever used much. Only person I can remember having it was Quad.

Hopefully it can be brought back, and revamped. I think it's a really neat idea and would definitely give Middlemen more legitimacy and make them much more trustworthy around here!

 

[Moon Knight]

Ummm, you know that Philly announced this group a while ago right?

 

[California]

I feel this needs to be addressed, even coming from me someone who has only seen such a short amount of time of Forum Korner I can already tell right now times are getting very rough sketchy, and there are a lot of ''respected names'' scamming out, and just scam's in general going on. Everyday I have come online to see multiple scam reports, and or attempted scams that are getting caught (thankfully).

However, there are way too many scams that are going on, and I am seeing some people try to throw shade toward Forum Korner as a whole in a negative demeanor which is not correct at all. This community does have a handful of very honorable and reputable people that have put forth a lot of time and money into this community. At the end of the day, I have noticed that majority of users have huge ego problems, and as important as reputation and honor is, doesn't mean you can just let your ego get the best of you and act out of line.

I feel the 'Middle Man' position is really being disregarded and left out in a day-to-day basis here in FK, everyone has too big of an ego to want to use one, because they don't trust etc etc.
Currently there is the rank "Verified" which requires you to submit extensive personal information that binds to you given if you ever become malicious you have A LOT to lose.

I think that we should start implementing a modification to this rank and turn it into an official/unofficial 'Middle Man' rank, where people will be picked out and chosen to do so, as to be Middle Men for FK. If any transaction worth batting an eyelash over always had a middle man involved, I can absolutely guarantee that majority (80%+) of scams will come to a halt for certain.

I think all of this needed to be said, because I have just seen the scams get progressively worse and more reputable names becoming malicious, and it all really can be prevented no matter what.

Discuss ~ Thoughts ~

cc: @Philly

FettY was never trusted . Only morons believe that 

 

[gunnar]

Ummm, you know that Philly announced this group a while ago right?

2 years prior, never seen one user having been apart of it

 

[Reptar]

The official Middleman rank is available for any user to try and achieve, the only reason why little to no one has achieved it is because of the effort and time it takes. I believe the only user that's ever been ranked an Official Middleman was @Quad. Also, I believed, Terry/@Hope was on the verge of achieving it as well.

 

[DepicT]

I like the idea of the Middle Man rank, but in order to really get the barrier of trust, a list of required trades isn't going to solve it, that is why I am talking about the integration of the 'verified' rank, because of the sole fact of having much more to lose than just a username, there are the personal details used to be able to aid in prosecuting 'scammers'