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Haven't really seen too much discussion about this in this section.

From a general consensus, I've heard Scientology be depicted as an abusive cult that is exploitative of its members.

Although I am not too knowledgeable on the topic, I'd like to hear some of you voice your opinions.​
 
RE: Scientology.

Cann!bal said:
It's no more different than Christianity, Islam or Judaism. Its gibberish and rubbish is just more blatant.
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I don't see how Christianity, Islam, and Judaism is "gibberish" and "rubbish", you could of made that reply without the insult directed at religions that weren't even mentioned in the OP. Simply disagreeing with a religion doesn't make it "gibberish"
and "rubbish".
 
RE: Scientology.

Cann!bal said:
It's no more different than Christianity, Islam or Judaism. Its gibberish and rubbish is just more blatant.
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Although I don't agree with your first statement, I do agree that you can't call a practice that was founded in 1954 by a famous Sci-Fi writer a religion.
 
RE: Scientology.

Explode said:
I don't see how Christianity, Islam, and Judaism is "gibberish" and "rubbish", you could of made that reply without the insult directed at religions that weren't even mentioned in the OP. Simply disagreeing with a religion doesn't make it "gibberish"
and "rubbish".
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Yes, I could have, however, I've found the tool of ridicule most suiting when trying to stress and emphasize the malarkey and ridiculousness found in essentially all religions.

I never put forth the ideology that disagreeing with one's religious beliefs makes them therefore gibberish and rubbish is always the case. You're jumping to conclusions.

Well, I find the claim that wine and bread is Jesus Christ's blood and flesh to be quite gibberish. The claim that there was a grand flood 6,000 years ago, I also find quite rubbish, as well as the claim that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old. I do indeed find the claim that I will receive 72 virgins when I go to a magical firmament called Heaven after I die to be quite absurd. To deem otherwise, as you're suggesting, is to deny and go against the fundamental principles of biology and chemistry, the foundations of science, our understanding of the universe and logic.
 
RE: Scientology.

Cann!bal said:
Yes, I could have, however, I've found the tool of ridicule most suiting when trying to stress and emphasize the malarkey and ridiculousness found in essentially all religion.

I never put forth the ideology that disagreeing with one's religious beliefs makes them therefore gibberish and rubbish is always the case. You're jumping to conclusions.

Well, I find the claim that wine and bread is Jesus Christ's blood and flesh to be quite gibberish. The claim that there was a grand flood 6,000 years ago, I also find quite rubbish, as well as the claim that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old. I do indeed find the claim that I will receive 72 virgins when I go to a magical firmament called Heaven after I die to be quite absurd. To deem otherwise, as you're suggesting, is to deny and go against the fundamental principles of biology and chemistry, the foundations of science, our understanding of the universe and logic.
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Basically.... You disagree with religion, just like I said, it's your opinion if you find it rubbish and gibberish, I bet if I were to say anything against Atheism, you would be replying similarly to how I am.
 
RE: Scientology.

Cann!bal said:
Yes, I could have, however, I've found the tool of ridicule most suiting when trying to stress and emphasize the malarkey and ridiculousness found in essentially all religions.

I never put forth the ideology that disagreeing with one's religious beliefs makes them therefore gibberish and rubbish is always the case. You're jumping to conclusions.

Well, I find the claim that wine and bread is Jesus Christ's blood and flesh to be quite gibberish. The claim that there was a grand flood 6,000 years ago, I also find quite rubbish, as well as the claim that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old. I do indeed find the claim that I will receive 72 virgins when I go to a magical firmament called Heaven after I die to be quite absurd. To deem otherwise, as you're suggesting, is to deny and go against the fundamental principles of biology and chemistry, the foundations of science, our understanding of the universe and logic.
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Don't muslims get 72 virgins for blowing themselves up ?
 
RE: Scientology.

Blunts said:
Explode, just let it go. Cann!bal is right.
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Why would I let it go? I am defending my beliefs, just like he is.
 
RE: Scientology.

Explode said:
Why would I let it go? I am defending my beliefs, just like he is.
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Like I said in my post, he is right. There is no refuting his logic.

Regardless, of your response, I will not post here again. I don't want to start a feud between a high quality users.
 
RE: Scientology.

Blunts said:
Like I said in my post, he is right. There is no refuting his logic.

Regardless, of your response, I will not post here again. I don't want to start a feud between a high quality users.
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Im not hq so I guess we can start a feud
 
RE: Scientology.

So, any opinions on Scientology?
 
RE: Scientology.

Blunts said:
Like I said in my post, he is right. There is no refuting his logic.

Regardless, of your response, I will not post here again. I don't want to start a feud between a high quality users.
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I mean, that is your opinion, and I wont be able to change that, but I wont stop because discussing/defending my beliefs because of that.

And yes, I don't want to start an argument/feud with anyone.
 
RE: Scientology.

Explode said:
Basically.... You disagree with religion, just like I said, it's your opinion if you find it rubbish and gibberish, I bet if I were to say anything against Atheism, you would be replying similarly to how I am.
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Ignoring my points isn't good for a healthy debate.

Don't generalize, it'll only lead to fallacious outcomes. It's not an opinion for it's a matter of fact, not a matter of opinion. As I elaborated, those religious beliefs go against the fundamental laws of science, and logic, hence are gibberish and rubbish. That's a fact, not an opinion. It's essentially the equivalent of having an opinion on whether the holocaust actually happened, and you're viewing the matter as an equivalent of whether the color red is a nice color.

Depending on the subject, I most likely would, however, I fail to see why this matters nor do I see what real point this proves.
 
RE: Scientology.

Blunts said:
Explode, just let it go. Cann!bal is right.
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While Cann!bal may do a great job of presenting a point, it is important to listen to what he has to say and express your own viewpoint based upon his remarks. Cann!bal is not always correct, and I was looking for more opinionated responses, rather than factual ones.
 
RE: Scientology.

Cann!bal said:
Ignoring my points isn't good for a healthy debate.

Don't generalize, it'll only lead to fallacious outcomes. It's not an opinion for it's a matter of fact, not a matter of opinion. As I elaborated, those religious beliefs go against the fundamental laws of science, and logic, hence are gibberish and rubbish. That's a fact, not an opinion. It's essentially the equivalent of having an opinion on whether the holocaust actually happened, and you're viewing the matter as an equivalent of whether the color red is a nice color.

Depending on the subject, I most likely would, however, I fail to see why this matters nor do I see what real point this proves.
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Why would I reply to your "points", it was your opinion.

And on the point of generalization, that's cute, all the time I see Atheists generalizing religion based on extremists.
 
RE: Scientology.

This isn't any more false than any other religion, and shouldn't be treated any differently. Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Mormons, etc. all think that Scientology is blatantly wrong, because it is a ridiculous religion. However, I would say the same about their religions.
 
RE: Scientology.

Shift said:
Don't muslims get 72 virgins for blowing themselves up ?
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According to their beliefs, yes, they will.

I was exhibiting the ridiculousness of Christianity, Islam and Judaism. That's why an Islamic claim appeared betwixt all the others.

Explode said:
Why would I reply to your "points", it was your opinion.

And on the point of generalization, that's cute, all the time I see Atheists generalizing religion based on extremists.
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They're not opinions, they're facts. I've elaborated this already. Refute it if you deem otherwise.

How is their mistakes relevant to me? Besides, there's no such thing as extremism.
 
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