I think we need a support member for the debates section.
When I think of the section all I think of is garbage.
When I posted quotes supporting my argument. (Quotes from the bible.)
The other person responded asking why I quoted other people.
Almost no one in the section understands the point of a debate or the methods behind forming one.
I admit that I didn't show my usual cheery side, but the posts in that section do nothing, but piss me off. So I apologize to everyone that thought I was being rude. (Except for the person I was being rude towards.)
IMO we need something like HF's attitude towards the section.
If someone posts something you believe to be untrue, post evidence
What you wish to avoid when using this appeal;[/color]]
Over-generalized claims
Reasons that are not fully explained or supported
Logical fallacies
Evidence misused or ignored
No recognition of opposing views
Ethical Appeal
Ethical appeal is used to establish the writer as fair, open-minded, honest, and knowledgeable about the subject matter. The writer creates a sense of him or herself as trustworthy and credible.
Well-informed about the topic
Confident in his or her position
Sincere and honest
Understanding of the reader's concerns and possible objections
Humane and considerate
What you wish to avoid when using this appeal;[/color]]
Unfair or dishonest
Distorting or misrepresenting information (biased)
Insulting or dismissive of other viewpoints
Advocating intolerant ideas
Emotional Appeal
Not surprisingly, emotional appeals target the emotions of the reader to create some kind of connection with the writer. Since humans are in many ways emotional creatures, this appeal can be a very powerful strategy in argument. For this same reason, however, emotional appeal can also be used to to intentionally mislead readers or to hide an argument that is weak in logical appeal. A lot of visual appeal is emotional in nature (think of advertisements, with their powerful imagery, colors, fonts, and symbols).
Reinforce logical arguments
Use diction and imagery to create a bond with the reader in a human way
Appeal to idealism, beauty, humor, nostalgia, or pity (or other emotions) in a balanced way
What you wish to avoid when using this appeal;[/color]]
Become a substitute for logic and reason (TV and magazine advertising often relies heavily on emotional rather than logical appeal)
Uses stereotypes to pit one group of people against another (propaganda and some political advertising does this)
Offers a simple, unthinking reaction to a complex problem
Takes advantage of emotions to manipulate (through fear, hate, pity, prejudice, embarrassment, lust, or other feelings) rather than convince credibly
I kinda agree to this, but maybe someone who is already a support member, Just have them doing two sections, I'd be up for it if Elite is okay with it, I personally love the debate section.
Great timing bro.
@The 4th line -People like this that go in the debate section are people that make me mad.
Reason being is the first post in this thread. When you are trying to make an argument you use other people's words to support your own.
If I would have said that we need to handle debates with the same kind of idea HF has you'd be asking how HF handles it.
And the C+P part... it's called a quote, -_-' or have you forgotten what a quote is?
To the first part - Last time I checked The Elite said it was ok as long we weren't advertising another site all over this site.