So out of the recent events like Aurora, how many of you have thought they were exactly the way the news presented it? I'm going to say slim to none and whoever does shouldn't be able to say the same after this. Most films like these usually have that outcome.
Yes, the video may be lengthy but that's because it's the full thing. You'd have to watch in parts if not are this. I myself don't think everything that the media portrays after shootings like this one is the full truth at all. Looking through the lines is the key here and I'm not talking about becoming obsessed with "conspiracies". In general that word has been used negatively so whoever here's it seems to be automatically pulled away. In short, what's talked about in this video is the theory that James Holmes, the Aurora killer was drugged up by higher-ups to carry out this and he had basically no say in it.
All of the reasons why of course will be further explained when you watch, but I'm all for whoever disagrees. I want to see what you think about this shooting and all of the others like Sandy Hook, which was just mentioned in another thread actually.
Not a religiousfag, but I think these modern-day events portray the end/armageddon/apocalyptic signs that we should all take note of. But then again, the majority of this world is built upon sheep.
Not a religiousfag, but I think these modern-day events portray the end/armageddon/apocalyptic signs that we should all take note of. But then again, the majority of this world is built upon sheep.
Well, even though I have debatable topics in the original post, I more so wanted this to be more of a philosophy that most of these happenings are not what they're thought to be. After seeing this that should be relatively obvious, but of course there are going to be different opinions.
I'm not sure if anything scares them. Unfortunately, we don't all know the truth either of course. For whoever just likes to ignore these subjects, I'll give you the advice not to. This is all the exact controversy that's driving a lot of out of the country and this is what is said to be done outside the line we know, which is not much.
There was a video similar to this posted not long ago about the Sandy Hook shooting. I was just talking to my mom about it earlier, but she wont have it. People of past generations are stuck in there ways, and the children of those people are the same. There are exceptions of course, but it is people like that who will eventually lead the world to its end, I believe. Being closed-minded is no good, and neither is listening to the media/government or run our country. They have proven that they cannot be trusted and people need to wake up and see that.
There was a video similar to this posted not long ago about the Sandy Hook shooting. I was just talking to my mom about it earlier, but she wont have it. People of past generations are stuck in there ways, and the children of those people are the same. There are exceptions of course, but it is people like that who will eventually lead the world to its end, I believe. Being closed-minded is no good, and neither is listening to the media/government or run our country. They have proven that they cannot be trusted and people need to wake up and see that.
The idea is too much for them to grasp. If you look over all that's been done and each motive to those it makes sense. When your a government that powerful, anything can go behind the scenes with most of the ears and eyes that we have witness them basically unnoticed.
I'm getting sick of all these conspiracy theories lately.
There are so many counter-arguments that could be made from this video. Also, you can assume the narrator of this video is perhaps adolescent by the depth of his voice. Do you seriously think a adolescent is intelligent enough to crack a conspiracy this immense? The possibility of a adolescent deciphering something of this scale is extraordinarily slim.
At 28:40, the narrator states that Holmes was studying subjects like time travel, biological and psychological sciences, and likely several other areas of breakthrough sciences and he says that it would prove valuable to top secret or political agencies.
So, what? I'm studying this stuff by myself on my own time, because I find it fascinating and I'm only 15. I guess this means I'm working for the government, correct? No. I think that the fact that the narrator even pointed this out makes him look like a even bigger delirious conspiracy theorist. I wouldn't even consider this supporting evidence.
30:52, he points out his family doesn't want to talk to police. Maybe because their son who held so much academic potential just went on a mass-killing spree in a movie theater, and they don't feel comfortable talking about it. Use logic idiot.
31:25, how the f*ck is this supporting evidence? He says that Holmes is unaware that he's in court and isn't speaking. Maybe he is acting that way because he knows he's going to prison for life or perhaps is still in shock or something. I'm sure there is a logical explanation.
He also states that Holmes is possibly under mind control and also states that the government has been studying ways to control people. You're joking, I hope no one is taking this seriously. Why would the government even brainwash him and have him go into a movie theater and go on a killing spree? They have no valid motive.
It also states there are some drugs that cause permanent amnesia. and implied that Holmes might have done it. Holmes already said he wasn't on any drugs or anything of that sort. He supposedly smoked weed, and took vicodin a couple hours before the shooting, but vicodin doesn't result in permanent amnesia. Also, if this was a set-up, don't you think whoever set him up would have placed some drugs with the diary that was allegedly put in his apartment? Plus, remember the elaborate traps that were in his house, how would have somebody set him up with not setting off the trap?
Those are just a couple counter-arguments I made with only around 5 minutes of footage.
And about his father, just a coincidence. Just like how the Batman movie plots were similar and he called himself the joker, just a coincidence. Just like how the Lil Wayne music video that was released prior to the shootings was filmed in a movie auditorium with 12 skeletons when 12 people died at the shootings. Coincidences happen. Here's some between JFK and Lincoln.
-Both presidents were elected to the presidency in '60.
-Both presidents were elected to the House of Representatives in '46.
-Both were runners-up for the party's nomination for vice-president in '56.
-Both their Vice Presidents and successors were Southern Democrats named Johnson who were born in '08.
-Both presidents were concerned with the problems of black Americans and made their views strongly known in '63. Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation in 1862, which became law in 1863. In 1963, Kennedy presented his reports to Congress on Civil Rights, and the same year was the famous March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom.
-Both presidents were shot in the head.
-Both presidents were shot from behind.
-Both presidents were shot in presence of their wives.
-Both presidents were shot on a Friday.
-Both presidents were accompanied by another couple.
-The male companion of the other couple was wounded by the assassin.
-Both presidents had a son die during their presidency.
-Lincoln was shot by John Wilkes Booth at Ford's Theatre; Kennedy was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald in a Lincoln automobile, made by Ford.
-Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy who told him not to go to the theatre; Kennedy had a secretary named Evelyn Lincoln who warned him not to go to Dallas.
-Both presidents' last names have 7 letters.
-Both presidents have five syllables in their full name (which counts Kennedy's middle initial).
-There are 6 letters in each Johnson's first name.
-Booth ran from a theatre to a warehouse; Oswald ran from a warehouse to a theatre.
-Both assassins have 3-word and 15-letter names.
Do you think these coincidences were planned? No, it just happened that way. The coincidences regarding the Aurora shootings and James Holmes can hardly be considered supporting evidence.
Towards the end of the video, the narrator asks "ARE YOU A VICTIM OF GOVERNMENT MIND CONTROL?" LOL. This video is ridiculous and is full of conspiracy bullcrap.
I'm getting sick of all these conspiracy theories lately.
There are so many counter-arguments that could be made from this video. Also, you can assume the narrator of this video is perhaps adolescent by the depth of his voice. Do you seriously think a adolescent is intelligent enough to crack a conspiracy this immense? The possibility of a adolescent deciphering something of this scale is extraordinarily slim.
At 28:40, the narrator states that Holmes was studying subjects like time travel, biological and psychological sciences, and likely several other areas of breakthrough sciences and he says that it would prove valuable to top secret or political agencies.
So, what? I'm studying this stuff by myself on my own time, because I find it fascinating and I'm only 15. I guess this means I'm working for the government, correct? No. I think that the fact that the narrator even pointed this out makes him look like a even bigger delirious conspiracy theorist. I wouldn't even consider this supporting evidence.
30:52, he points out his family doesn't want to talk to police. Maybe because their son who held so much academic potential just went on a mass-killing spree in a movie theater, and they don't feel comfortable talking about it. Use logic idiot.
31:25, how the f*ck is this supporting evidence? He says that Holmes is unaware that he's in court and isn't speaking. Maybe he is acting that way because he knows he's going to prison for life or perhaps is still in shock or something. I'm sure there is a logical explanation.
He also states that Holmes is possibly under mind control and also states that the government has been studying ways to control people. You're joking, I hope no one is taking this seriously. Why would the government even brainwash him and have him go into a movie theater and go on a killing spree? They have no valid motive.
It also states there are some drugs that cause permanent amnesia. and implied that Holmes might have done it. Holmes already said he wasn't on any drugs or anything of that sort. He supposedly smoked weed, and took vicodin a couple hours before the shooting, but vicodin doesn't result in permanent amnesia. Also, if this was a set-up, don't you think whoever set him up would have placed some drugs with the diary that was allegedly put in his apartment? Plus, remember the elaborate traps that were in his house, how would have somebody set him up with not setting off the trap?
Those are just a couple counter-arguments I made with only around 5 minutes of footage.
And about his father, just a coincidence. Just like how the Batman movie plots were similar and he called himself the joker, just a coincidence. Just like how the Lil Wayne music video that was released prior to the shootings was filmed in a movie auditorium with 12 skeletons when 12 people died at the shootings. Coincidences happen. Here's some between JFK and Lincoln.
-Both presidents were elected to the presidency in '60.
-Both presidents were elected to the House of Representatives in '46.
-Both were runners-up for the party's nomination for vice-president in '56.
-Both their Vice Presidents and successors were Southern Democrats named Johnson who were born in '08.
-Both presidents were concerned with the problems of black Americans and made their views strongly known in '63. Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation in 1862, which became law in 1863. In 1963, Kennedy presented his reports to Congress on Civil Rights, and the same year was the famous March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom.
-Both presidents were shot in the head.
-Both presidents were shot from behind.
-Both presidents were shot in presence of their wives.
-Both presidents were shot on a Friday.
-Both presidents were accompanied by another couple.
-The male companion of the other couple was wounded by the assassin.
-Both presidents had a son die during their presidency.
-Lincoln was shot by John Wilkes Booth at Ford's Theatre; Kennedy was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald in a Lincoln automobile, made by Ford.
-Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy who told him not to go to the theatre; Kennedy had a secretary named Evelyn Lincoln who warned him not to go to Dallas.
-Both presidents' last names have 7 letters.
-Both presidents have five syllables in their full name (which counts Kennedy's middle initial).
-There are 6 letters in each Johnson's first name.
-Booth ran from a theatre to a warehouse; Oswald ran from a warehouse to a theatre.
-Both assassins have 3-word and 15-letter names.
Do you think these coincidences were planned? No, it just happened that way. The coincidences regarding the Aurora shootings and James Holmes can hardly be considered supporting evidence.
Towards the end of the video, the narrator asks "ARE YOU A VICTIM OF GOVERNMENT MIND CONTROL?" LOL. This video is ridiculous and is full of conspiracy bullcrap.
Not one time did he mention he was studying anything, this was all speculation that he brought up as evidence. All of those are just your opinion, don't make it sound like fact. If anything the coincidences you're talking about support this further. Some 'coincidences', are a little too far fetched like the some 20-25 between JFK and Lincoln. Also, the Lil Wayne music video does as well. Who's to say he isn't apart of any group that is notified about this before it happens, if done by the government? What I said in the thread was I'm not big on the idea of conspiracy in anyway, but they're hard to deny in a lot of cases. The narrator you think sounds 15 is probably more like 18 or 19, his voice sounds about that contrary to what you think and that doesn't automatically determine how old a person is.
Obama could not have been the center for the potential ploy. Some say the illuminati actually exists but I don't completely agree with that. Any group could be up to this funded by the government and in touch with the president. Again, this is just what I think. I'm not a major conspiracy theorist and that word has been used negatively.
Not one time did he mention he was studying anything, this was all speculation that he brought up as evidence. All of those are just your opinion, don't make it sound like fact.
What? I even gave you the time where the narrator states that Holmes was studying time travel and breakthrough sciences. I think you're confused.
Salvation said:
If anything the coincidences you're talking about support this further. Some 'coincidences', are a little too far fetched like the some 20-25 between JFK and Lincoln. Also, the Lil Wayne music video does as well.
How can the coincidences between JFK and Lincoln be used as supporting evidence for the Aurora shootings?
Salvation said:
Who's to say he isn't apart of any group that is notified about this before it happens, if done by the government? What I said in the thread was I'm not big on the idea of conspiracy in anyway, but they're hard to deny in a lot of cases.
It's quite easy to deny in a lot of cases, actually. The people who make conspiracy documentaries like this, always make their films extremely biased. Just do your own research to hear the other side.
Salvation said:
The narrator you think sounds 15 is probably more like 18 or 19, his voice sounds about that contrary to what you think and that doesn't automatically determine how old a person is.
Even then, do you really think a 18-year-old would decipher a conspiracy this great? And I already know his voice doesn't determine his actual age, I'm not retarded.
What? I even gave you the time where the narrator states that Holmes was studying time travel and breakthrough sciences. I think you're confused.
How can the coincidences between JFK and Lincoln be used as supporting evidence for the Aurora shootings?
It's quite easy to deny in a lot of cases, actually. The people who make conspiracy documentaries like this, always make their films extremely biased. Just do your own research to hear the other side.
Even then, do you really think a 18-year-old would decipher a conspiracy this great? And I already know his voice doesn't determine his actual age, I'm not retarded.
I thought you were referring to the narrator 'studying' what Holmes had done before the shooting. It's not impossible as Holmes was a very smart student and could have had help from other parties. Jfk and Lincoln? Not evidence to support the shooting, you just gave brought up a lot of things that are erie and undeniably identical. He didn't 'decipher', the conspiracy. All he did was give his input and most of what he mentioned was based on events that actually happened. Did you see me calling you retarded? No, I think you need to bring it down a little bit on this topic.
I thought you were referring to the narrator 'studying' what Holmes had done before the shooting. It's not impossible as Holmes was a very smart student and could have had help from other parties. Jfk and Lincoln? Not evidence to support the shooting, you just gave brought up a lot of things that are erie and undeniably identical. He didn't 'decipher', the conspiracy. All he did was give his input and most of what he mentioned was based on events that actually happened. Did you see me calling you retarded? No, I think you need to bring it down a little bit on this topic.
Not possible? What exactly are you saying is not possible? Be more clear, please. Were you saying that it wasn't possible that he was studying those subjects? If so, the narrator stated that the truth was that he was studying those subjects. You can't deny it and say that it wasn't possible that he was studying those subjects because he was smart(Unless you have valid proof that he didn't). Plus that doesn't even make sense. If he was smart, don't you think he would be studying those subjects? I sure do.
Undeniably identical... How are the Aurora shootings, and JFK and Lincoln identical?
No, you didn't necessarily call me retarded, but you were informing of that obvious logic like I was an idiot and was unaware. Bring it down? What have I done to escalate the debate?
Not possible? What exactly are you saying is not possible? Be more clear, please. Were you saying that it wasn't possible that he was studying those subjects? If so, the narrator stated that the truth was that he was studying those subjects. You can't deny it and say that it wasn't possible that he was studying those subjects because he was smart(Unless you have valid proof that he didn't). Plus that doesn't even make sense. If he was smart, don't you think he would be studying those subjects? I sure do.
Undeniably identical... How are the Aurora shootings, and JFK and Lincoln identical?
No, you didn't necessarily call me retarded, but you were informing of that obvious logic like I was an idiot and was unaware. Bring it down? What have I done to escalate the debate?
You are not understanding me at all. The JFK and Lincoln facts are undeniably identical to each other. He was studying those subjects, I'm not going to go into full detail on how it's possible that he could have been.. that research can be found on your own. How you were speaking to me earlier made it seem a little escalated I guess.