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I want to start a series of discussions, and I would like you guys to be a part of it. This discussion will deal with the world of philosophy.
I will give my answer and start giving input after a few replies have been given.

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How would one deduct the meaning of life based on their personal experiences, and what does this revelation do for the individual?

Please note that I am not asking you what the meaning of life is.
 

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How would one deduct the meaning of life based on their personal experiences, and what does this revelation do for the individual?

It's all circumstantial, say I was an evil person and I committed heinous crimes, I would probably believe my life is meant for evil.
The revelation would assure them that they have one purpose, to contradict something else, I.e. Good vs. evil.
 

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If you get treated like trash while growing up, you'll probably have a same view on life.

Remember, I am not asking you what you feel the meaning of life is.
I am simply asking you what the meaning of life symbolizes in terms of an individual, as opposed to our movements as a species.

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How would one deduct the meaning of life based on their personal experiences, and what does this revelation do for the individual?

It's all circumstantial, say I was an evil person and I committed heinous crimes, I would probably believe my life is meant for evil.
The revelation would assure them that they have one purpose, to contradict something else, I.e. Good vs. evil.

You think that man views his meaning of life based on what he has done, or are you saying that he uses what he perceives as the meaning of his life to decide what he shall do?
 

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He does what he thinks is the meaning of his life to decide what he shall do based off various factors of circumstance. If your father was a serial killer and told you it was alright, would you not believe this as a true reality in which is your meaning of life?
 

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ttomthebomb said:
He does what he thinks is the meaning of his life to decide what he shall do based off various factors of circumstance. If your father was a serial killer and told you it was alright, would you not believe this as a true reality in which is your meaning of life?

That doesn't answer my question.

I'm asking you which of the entities influence the other.
- Does he form his perceived meaning of life based on his actions?
- Does he form his actions based on his perceived meaning of life?
 

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ttomthebomb said:
He does what he thinks is the meaning of his life to decide what he shall do based off various factors of circumstance. If your father was a serial killer and told you it was alright, would you not believe this as a true reality in which is your meaning of life?

That doesn't answer my question.

I'm asking you which of the entities influence the other.
- Does he form his perceived meaning of life based on his actions?
- Does he form his actions based on his perceived meaning of life?

Oh right, sorry went off into a ramble.

His meaning of life would be based of his actions, yes.
 

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ttomthebomb said:
Oh right, sorry went off into a ramble.

His meaning of life would be based of his actions, yes.

Do you think that the only outcome of the man's realization is acceptance? A for of self affirmation, in a way?
 

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ttomthebomb said:
Oh right, sorry went off into a ramble.

His meaning of life would be based of his actions, yes.

Do you think that the only outcome of the man's realization is acceptance? A for of self affirmation, in a way?

The only way he can accept it is if he accepts his actions, right, so yes.
 

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ttomthebomb said:
Provenance said:
ttomthebomb said:
Oh right, sorry went off into a ramble.

His meaning of life would be based of his actions, yes.

Do you think that the only outcome of the man's realization is acceptance? A for of self affirmation, in a way?

The only way he can accept it is if he accepts his actions, right, so yes.

I worded that strange and I'm too tired to remember what I meant to right, so I'll just reword it for you.

Man enters life with no set goals, and he remains in that goalless state for a while. As he matures he begins to form his own thoughts, breaking away from the mold that his parents and society put him into. This is usually a small break, but it's significance is large nonetheless. It symbolizes freedom and revolution within the mind. This is where the point of your life will start to form. Who you will be, what you will do, and, more importantly, what you will think. Your thoughts of the future begin to form while you progress.

My question is, do you think that this self realization is only good for man's own self affirmation, or do you think that it means something more?

My Opinion: Most people need a point. They need something to make them think of life as more important than whatever else there is. How much this point of life will mean to them is irrelevant at this stage, but it is still part of the same argument. If I decided that the reason that I wanted to live is because of pizza, that would be perfectly fine. It is still a point of life, a reason to live. For this argument we are thinking in a more general sense, but the thought is the same. In this self realization man gains more than most spend the time to think about. A air of reason, increased goals and motivation, carefulness, and planning, more confidence, happier lifestyle, etc.. Yes, I understand that not all people are happier with this understanding, but, again, we are talking in a more general sense.

Some people think that there is no point and they turn to a God. This third party becomes their reason for life. People with kids are the same.

- Does that help explain more? (I kind of ramble.) =/
 

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Sorry if don't exactly answer your questions correctly, I'm not that philisophical.
I'll try again when I'm on a computer.
 

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(I'm not sure if this is the answer you are looking for but I shall post anyway) I do not personally believe there is a meaning to life, not everything has to created for a purpose, everything may seem to have a purpose but that (in the term of animals and insects) is just because they have evolved to adapt to there environment. But I believe the experiences people have as a young child or if they have extreme views forced upon them makes them perceive the world and the meaning of life in a different way.
 

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I actually said in the OP that I was not looking for opinions on the meaning of life, but I guess it only helps the discussion at this point.

I'm asking what you think the meaning of life signifies for other people.

ttomthebomb said:
Sorry if don't exactly answer your questions correctly, I'm not that philisophical.
I'll try again when I'm on a computer.

Don't worry, you answered the question. I'm just pushing you to go farther.
There are no "right answers" in philosophy, simply "answers".
 

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My question is, do you think that this self realization is only good for man's own self affirmation, or do you think that it means something more?

The self realization will only prove that his reason is true, I would say there is nothing more than that, personally.
Although, from another perspective it could be seen as meaning something more than nothing, which is always true confirming there is something more.
 

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ttomthebomb said:
My question is, do you think that this self realization is only good for man's own self affirmation, or do you think that it means something more?

The self realization will only prove that his reason is true, I would say there is nothing more than that, personally.
Although, from another perspective it could be seen as meaning something more than nothing, which is always true confirming there is something more.

So, you think that the point of life is based on what a man does, and the realization of this point will only go to show the man that what he's doing is what he should do? (Rhetorical Question)
 
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