Was 9/11 an Inside Job?

Hurt · May 22, 2015

First off, no disrespect to any Americans reading this. I know that whether or not it was an inside job, it was still a tragic event. I don't mean to offend anybody by talking about it like this.

Do you believe 9/11 was an inside job, or was it just an act of terrorism by Osama Bin Laden?
Personally I believe it was an act of terrorism, but not by Bin Laden. I believe it was an act of Domestic Terrorism by the US Gov't.

There are a lot of things that point to this, such as the infamous "Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams" which is correct.
The hottest temperatures the jet fuel could have burned at is 1800 F. This is a lot of heat, but steel has a melting point of 2500 F.

Also, the towers fell straight down and if it was the impact and the fire that caused them to collapse, they would have fallen over and not straight down.
Traces of thermite were found at ground zero, even after the US Gov't denied anyone access to it and had most of the evidence shipped overseas and destroyed.

I could go on, but I'm pretty tired and I want to engage you guys in this discussion. I'd like to see people fighting for both sides, but I doubt anyone will be able to change my mind.

gunnar · May 22, 2015

i don't think you'll offend a lot of people b
it happened and that's it
speculation speculation blah blah blah
in the end it doesn't matter if we did it to make the public hate middle eastern people or whether they did it
all that matters is that some people died and that we don't forget memories of them
but society has gone to shit
if you use the internet you'll see this is a giant meme if you don't already know

Krish · May 22, 2015

I will post my response to this later, this is a great topic for an essay I'll be writing. I do believe it is an inside job. I will edit my post to a link to my essay when I'm done.

Hurt · May 22, 2015

gunnar said:
i don't think you'll offend a lot of people b
it happened and that's it
speculation speculation blah blah blah
in the end it doesn't matter if we did it to make the public hate middle eastern people or whether they did it
all that matters is that some people died and that we don't forget memories of them
but society has gone to shit
if you use the internet you'll see this is a giant meme if you don't already know

I don't think it was intended to make people hate the Middle Eastern, but rather a scare tactic. Studies show that when the public are in fear that drives sales up. I.E, Y2K drove up the economy because people were buying shit tons of water, same with 2012 and quite a few other instances. I wouldn't doubt 9/11 was similar, and they may have gone with a more violent approach this time because it also gave them "a reason" to invade the middle eastern to look for "weapons of mass destruction" aka oil.

Krish said:
I will post my response to this later, this is a great topic for an essay I'll be writing. I do believe it is an inside job. I will edit my post to a link to my essay when I'm done.

Cool! I look forward to it, cannot wait to read the essay

Taunt · May 22, 2015

I'm going to bed now, but ill post on here tomorrow when i get home from school on this. It's a sad topic but i like debating.

old · May 22, 2015

Of course it was an insode job. This is actually something a great deal of the american public believes. I came to america after 9/11, so I look at it without any emotional bias. The way the buildings toppled were inconsistent with any accidents and it most definitely looked like a controlled demolition rather than a national disaster. most importantly, JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS. If anybody wants to debate this topic with me further feel free to do so. I get on every so often and can go into further detail if needed.

California · May 22, 2015

Saving my post right here. But to simply out it yes. It was

Replicate · May 22, 2015

old said:
Of course it was an insode job. This is actually something a great deal of the american public believes. I came to america after 9/11, so I look at it without any emotional bias. The way the buildings toppled were inconsistent with any accidents and it most definitely looked like a controlled demolition rather than a national disaster. most importantly, JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS. If anybody wants to debate this topic with me further feel free to do so. I get on every so often and can go into further detail if needed.

Wouldn't the impact from the plane be enough to bend the steel beams and collapse the building?

old · May 22, 2015

Circuit said:
Wouldn't the impact from the plane be enough to bend the steel beams and collapse the building?

Doubtfully, but possibly. But the planes hit near the top of the towers. It wouldn't make the whole tower topple demolition style.

blast · May 22, 2015

old said:
Doubtfully, but possibly. But the planes hit near the top of the towers. It wouldn't make the whole tower topple demolition style.

Hmm I'm not disagreeing with your point of view of it being an inside job and this may sound a little nerdy but according to physics the weights of any part of the building above the crashing point coming down with such force will cause the rest of the tower to fall floor by floor making the falling force greater after every floor it destroys. Like I said, still believe it was inside though.

Boltage · May 22, 2015

I don't think it was an inside job.... Lmfao. I'll keep my beliefs too myself. Although I don't think our government is fully honest about anything

old · May 22, 2015

Blast said:
Hmm I'm not disagreeing with your point of view of it being an inside job and this may sound a little nerdy but according to physics the weights of any part of the building above the crashing point coming down with such force will cause the rest of the tower to fall floor by floor making the falling force greater after every floor it destroys. Like I said, still believe it was inside though.

we are talking about building built to withstand earthquakes and similar disasters. a plane taking out two floors of a multistory building and having them all fall just doesn't sound feasable. plus since the plane crashed into one side you would assume that the building would topple to that side since it would be dramatically weaker woth a huge gorge there

Cannabis · May 22, 2015

To say the least, it was a great causa belli. Particularly for someone who is in the oil industry in the area of the world that is going to be attacked and doesn't live there, is the head of the invading force, and is smart enough to use the resulting conflict as a reasonable excuse to raise the price of oil. Sounds like someone that was voted in 15 years ago, but I'm not going to name names.

Circuit said:
Wouldn't the impact from the plane be enough to bend the steel beams and collapse the building?

The steel columns used in those buildings weren't HSS or channels, the were 30 foot thick solid steel pillars at the base up through the first half of the building, 20 foot thick for the next quarter, then finally HSS and channels. If the HSS and/or channels were bent, then, by that logic, the top quarter of the North Tower should have bent in the direction the plane was traveling. The only plausible explaination for either tower falling in the manner that they did is pre-planted explosives located in places that would cause a controlled demolition. This is what that looks like; [video=youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SaBQ3AkRetI[/video]
So based on that, thoughts?

Oh, also, don't forget about the multi-billion dollar insurance policy that went into effect earlier that week.

Samus · May 22, 2015

Jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams bush did 9/11 420 1337

Deject · May 22, 2015

How can 9/11 be an inside job if the planes came from the outside

Senpai · May 22, 2015

JET FUEL CANT MELT STEEL BEAMS

IT WAS BUSH

Ron · May 22, 2015

Cannabis said:
To say the least, it was a great causa belli. Particularly for someone who is in the oil industry in the area of the world that is going to be attacked and doesn't live there, is the head of the invading force, and is smart enough to use the resulting conflict as a reasonable excuse to raise the price of oil. Sounds like someone that was voted in 15 years ago, but I'm not going to name names.

The steel columns used in those buildings weren't HSS or channels, the were 30 foot thick solid steel pillars at the base up through the first half of the building, 20 foot thick for the next quarter, then finally HSS and channels. If the HSS and/or channels were bent, then, by that logic, the top quarter of the North Tower should have bent in the direction the plane was traveling. The only plausible explaination for either tower falling in the manner that they did is pre-planted explosives located in places that would cause a controlled demolition. This is what that looks like; [video=youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SaBQ3AkRetI[/video]
So based on that, thoughts?

Oh, also, don't forget about the multi-billion dollar insurance policy that went into effect earlier that week.

Very compelling evidence, I think it was without a doubt that the US Government had some involvement in this travesty.

I'll edit my post tomorrow with my thoughts and theories on this.

Cannabis · May 22, 2015

Ron said:
Very compelling evidence, I think it was without a doubt that the US Government had some involvement in this travesty.

I'll edit my post tomorrow with my thoughts and theories on this.

I'm not even saying it was the government. My thoughts are that the people behind it are a small group of affluent individuals, all of who happened to have been in or very near government amd still are. If you guys haven't figured this one out yet, our world is controlled by the obscenely rich. Their greed knows no bounds and they are willing to do whatever it takes to become even more wealthy because it gives them more influence, therefore more control. Think I'm full of shit? Let me ask you this; what can't be done with enough money and manpower?

Replicate · May 22, 2015

How come people are blaming it on Bush? What did he do to raise suspicion?

Sarcasm · May 22, 2015

I never thought It was till I read about it further more and saw this picture.

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