Westboro Baptist Church

Cann!bal said:

I distract myself with their exertions once in a while, as a source of fiendish entertainment and as a drive for deconstructing the architectures that support these laughable and asinine religious beliefs, which they vehemently attempt to spread, like cancer. However, I praise their high publicity for we have a multitude of cultures which supremely valorize faith and empty-proof beliefs. The WBC has acted as a martyr for what is so pitiful, shameful and absurd with tyrannical faith-based religions, at an objective level, by exhibiting profitable archetypes of true Christianity. These people are the most genuine Christians that live in the modern world; they actually follow and enforce their dictated doctrines to great extents. Howbeit, they're barely even Christians; they don't follow their doctrine to the core. The Westboro bigots still cherry-picks their doctrine and interprets the text in ways which reinforce their desirabilities. The Westboro Baptists would be considered heretics and sentenced to death if they lived in the Era of Darkness where the Church reigned and campaigned the ideals of Christian philosophy in Europe.

However, I find it important to recognize, the WBC, grotesque and sickening as they are -- are not even the paramount of religious fanatics of the status quo; they are trivial nuisances in comparison. Unlike Christian fundamentalists, Islamic fundamentalists actually believe their doctrine. Islam-based terrorists organizations are spreading their message of "love" by denying innate human rights, and barbarically torturing and murdering innocent people by the number in the name of Allah, their God, and are being valorized by the major population of the Muslim-world for doing so. This, I find immensely more disturbing and heartbreaking than these harmless bigots.

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Azazel said:

Yes that is true about how other Islamic organizations are horrible and worse but the wbc isn't harmless you have to also factor that yes they are signs but some people take words like stones and for all we know there was several suicides and future suicides from them.

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wash said:

The most absurd thing is that this is "legal." Free speech is so fucked in this country. I understand that limiting free speech is a scary thing, but this type of speech is clearly inflammatory, baseless, damaging, and offensive. Yet our courts consider this to be legal exercise of free speech.

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Cann!bal said:

I think that is quite a farfetched and unrealistic claim, and you're exhibiting the fallacy of we don't know, therefore true.

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Azazel said:

How is it farfetched do you live in a closet? People kill themselfs daily from being bullied by people calling them names etc what makes this case any different?

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Cann!bal said:

It should be legal. I will fight for every humans' right to be a bigot. It isn't baseless; it bases from the Bible and the tenets in the Bible are far more rotten than how these people act. And, the "I'm offended" or "I don't like that" argument isn't an argument; it's a whine and it's extraordinarily stupid that it is taken seriously in America.

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wash said:

I disagree. These people are defaming our nation's soldiers because they have a belief derived from nonsense. I don't understand how you are contempt with allowing people to publicly speak irrational hate with no factual evidence that damages the reputation and name of others. I know you want to keep free speech, and I agree to an extent. But by allowing free speech, we also allow ignorance to survive, which does nothing but harm our society. And being offended for good reason is absolutely an acceptable defense. If a group of KKK members started picketing on a street corner, do you expect any blacks to be not offended? Of course they will be offended. However, if anyone in the KKK could prove that blacks are inferior to whites, then I wouldn't be offended, because they proved it was true. But its obviously not true, so people are offended and justifiably so.

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Cann!bal said:

You do understand you're arguing for the same political philosophy that Nazi Germany utilized? A fascist totalitarian state attempts to hold total control over a society, wherein public and private aspects of life are under control of the state.

Ignorance cannot be remedied by censorship. Censorship embodies ignorance. It's denies us our innate human rights and acts as a barrier for liberty. You cannot deny someone their rights simply because they don't have a valid justification for their beliefs, in your eyes.

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Cann!bal said:

No one is killing themselves because the Westboro Baptist Church are bigots. That's silly.

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Azazel said:

Yes it is silly that they are doing the same thing as a bully would do to verbally harass a person for say being homosexual. You can only expect the same outcome.

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