What makes something wrong?

[Radical]

I was looking through a bunch of debates (since I haven't made a thread here in a while) and found this.

I propose these following options and nothing else. "Something is wrong because of autonomy, suffering, and intentions." So before you go on answer this first question in your mind. Out of these three reasons, which do you believe causes wrongness in the world?

If you don't know the definition(s) of the word(s), here they are.

• Autonomy
• "independence or freedom, as of the will or one's actions"

• Suffering
• to undergo or feel pain or distress

• Intentions 
• an act or instance of determining mentally upon some action or result.
  

So here are the three points and how I'm gonna use them:




AUTONOMY:

• "Some would say something is wrong because it violates autonomy." For example, if the U.S. were to change the second amendment to, "No guns allowed except in wars." Many people that violates their autonomy because they believe people should have guns for their own safety. Another example is Hitler was took away the autonomy of the Jews, homosexuals, blacks, etc. Yet, people believe when their autonomy is violated it is better. For example, the North Koreans like when Kim Jong-Un violates their autonomy as it protects them from bad "western culture." So, something cannot be bad because it violates autonomy, as autonomy violation is not necessarily bad.

Suffering:

• Other people say something is wrong because it causes suffering. This is not my example and not my favorite. I will change it when I find a better when. "So, if the measure for the "wrongness" of something is how much unnecessary suffering it causes, then raping someone in a coma cannot be bad, yet no empathetic, sane individual would advocate that raping someone in a coma is not wrong. This means that the measure of "suffering caused" is arbitrary, or at least not 100% responsible for evaluating wrongness."

Intentions:

• The other people say intention is something for being wrong. Going back to my first examples, if this was true then the second amendment was not suppose to take the rights of people away. It was to protect them from the wrongdoing of people. My second example with the Hitler one. If you believe intentions make something wrong then Hitler WAS NOT EVIL. The reason I say that is because Hitler's INTENTION(s) were to make a world a better place and make the human race "better".

So my question is, what makes something wrong?

 

[Paul H.]

In Catholic tradition, something is acceptable if it its object, intention, and circumstances are all good.

 

[Radical]

In Catholic tradition, something is acceptable if it its object, intention, and circumstances are all good.

Yes, but good is something different to me then it is to you.

For example, Hitler thought it was his intentions were good, but many despise him for it. 

 

[community]

When you get a nervous feeling in your body than you know you are not suppost to do it.

 

[Radical]

When you get a nervous feeling in your body than you know you are not suppost to do it.

EDIT: MY RESPONSE WAS BAD WILL FIX LATER

 

[Nab]

This is actually a big question, which branches into many things; such as morals, ethics, the theory of good and evil, and the theory of right and wrong. Morals are what you believe. Ethics have been set, and accepted by society as we've developed. Morals though, that is what you believe, and this can make the topic iffy.

 

[Radical]

This is actually a big question, which branches into many things; such as morals, ethics, the theory of good and evil, and the theory of right and wrong. Morals are what you believe. Ethics have been set, and accepted by society as we've developed. Morals though, that is what you believe, and this can make the topic iffy.

Morals - Is what you believe in really right or wrong which doesn't answer my question
Ethics - Society is always changing therefore something can be right one day, but wrong the other day.

I know this is a tough debate though.

 

[Nab]

Morals - Is what you believe in really right or wrong which doesn't answer my question
Ethics - Society is always changing therefore something can be right one day, but wrong the other day.
I know this is a tough debate though.

I don't like answering the question for you, thats not how philosophy works. Philosophy is the activity of thinking, so I just leave statements for you. One of the reasons the topic of the and good and bad, right and wrong, etc, is so iffy, is because of things like mental illness, being raised biased, stuff like that. Everyone sees them as different things.

 

[Boltage]

I feel that being wrong is opinion based.

 

[Plague]

Nothing. The difference between right and wrong is what is ethical to you.

Killing is wrong when it's for "nonsense" but the government does it against "terrorists" that we are stealing oil from.
Right and wrong is a bunch of bullshit that people use to make themselves feel higher than another.

 

[Boltage]

Nothing. The difference between right and wrong is what is ethical to you.

Killing is wrong when it's for "nonsense" but the government does it against "terrorists" that we are stealing oil from.
Right and wrong is a bunch of bullshit that people use to make themselves feel higher than another.

Off topic but we are not only taking them out for oil 

 

[Plague]

Off topic but we are not only taking them out for oil 

No offense of course, but I use to be all for the military till I actually started paying attention and talked to a few friends that were in it.
Just my own personal views. Might make a debate for it later on.

 

[Paul H.]

Yes, but good is something different to me then it is to you.

For example, Hitler thought it was his intentions were good, but many despise him for it. 

That's why moral relativism is wrong. There are a certain set of moral truths we can learn from philosophy, reason and revelation that must be followed.

 

[Nab]

That's why moral relativism is wrong.  There are a certain set of moral truths we can learn from philosophy, reason and revelation that must be followed.

There is no truth to a moral, it is simply what someone believes to be right or wrong. That's why this topic is so touchy, because some people have neither reason, nor revelation.

 

[Azazel]

I find something is wrong when it violates my moral code; we develop our own diverse moral code commonly due to: family, society, religion, life experiences, and how we were raised. Although ethics seems like a burden, I believe it maintains stability in our society.

 

[Paradox]

Nothing. The difference between right and wrong is what is ethical to you.

Killing is wrong when it's for "nonsense" but the government does it against "terrorists" that we are stealing oil from.
Right and wrong is a bunch of bullshit that people use to make themselves feel higher than another.

Yeah, basically.

Your perception of "right and wrong" are probably different from my perception of "right and wrong."

It's whatever you believe.