This will put healthiness and food in perspective for you: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/what-are-the-healthiest-foods/.Siesta said:Rhubarb, potatoes, and nutmeg is also unhealthy for your body.
Rice also increases the risk of cancer, according to some studies.
What's the point in living by a book, instead of living your life, and take it one day at a time?
I don't care if I die when I'm 30, because I had a good life. Instead of dying at the age of 150, and have a horrible life.
Besides that, the oldest people in the world, is never vegetarians, at least I haven't heard of it. Do you mind explaining that?
Siesta said:Rhubarb, potatoes, and nutmeg is also unhealthy for your body.
Rice also increases the risk of cancer, according to some studies.
What's the point in living by a book, instead of living your life, and take it one day at a time?
I don't care if I die when I'm 30, because I had a good life. Instead of dying at the age of 150, and have a horrible life.
Besides that, the oldest people in the world, is never vegetarians, at least I haven't heard of it. Do you mind explaining that?
I don't see a site called " http://nutritionfacts.org/ " as a source of knowledge, sorry.Cann!bal said:This will put healthiness and food in perspective for you: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/what-are-the-healthiest-foods/.
What book are you referring to? I don't follow any book.
I think that's fair to say, however, it doesn't factor that there are significant moral implications to consuming animal products. It is destroying the planet and it is not a sustainable diet. There would be leftovers and no more world hunger if we redirected all the food we feed livestock to the needy. And it is also responsible for torture and death of billions of animals who share desires just as valid as ours. And there are plenty more reasons that play their collective role.
The groups with the longest living people in the world live on almost entirely plant based diets: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/the-okinawa-diet-living-to-100/.
A friend did, and he almost died.Devil said:did you ever get high off nutmeg? find times
Siesta said:I don't see a site called " http://nutritionfacts.org/ " as a source of knowledge, sorry.
However, I don't mind people living in a certain way.
I'll never stop eating meat. I eat food for flavor, not for diets, not for anything else besides flavor. I've tried some good vegetarian dishes, but nothing that I can eat daily, mainly because of the huge amount I have to eat in order to get my hunger satisifed, and because I need energy when I eat it.
A friend did, and he almost died.
not sure if I want to.
You care about animals killed for food, but not all the millions of people who gets a pointless dead because of US?Cann!bal said:He provides sources to everything he says. You can't dismiss me because you don't like their site name - that's incredibly unfair.
You're not addressing my argument. Do you honestly think there's a moral justification for destroying the planet and murdering billions of animals for an unhealthy and unsustainable snack?
You haven't opened all your doors to food then, dude. I fell in love with food, cooking and making meals once I went vegan. There are seemingly limitless options. And you're forgetting there's good-tasting vegan alternatives to about every animal product there is. You don't miss out on anything.
Where did I state I don't care for them? Nowhere because that's not true.Siesta said:You care about animals killed for food, but not all the millions of people who gets a pointless dead because of US?
And lets see, what have the humans been doing for the last 20000 years? Eaten meat.
What would you do in really cold areas, like etc. Greenland? How would you grow plants for the whole population there? On the ice?
In order for a full vegan system to run around, you need to eliminate all transport of the actual food. Else it'll just end up being as bad as the animals.Cann!bal said:Where did I state I don't care for them? Nowhere because that's not true.
Where did you get that figure from? We've also been eating plant-based for thousands of years. Our closest ancestors are nearly entirely herbivores and we have no biological need for meat. We were gathers before we became hunter-gathers unless you forgot. The only thing that happened is we learned how to prepare and cook meat because we weren't fans of eating straight from the animal carcass like all other meat-eaters. Appealing to tradition is not a valid justification for destroying the planet and murdering billions of animals.
What? Are you trying to tell me there's no way of getting vegan food in Greenland? If not, then what's your point?
And you're still haven't addressed me like I've already said you've been doing. Don't bother commenting if you're going to continue to ignore me. It's totally unfair. This can hardly be considered a debate or an intellectual discussion unless you do. Please answer me, do you honestly think there's a moral justification for destroying the planet and murdering billions of animals for an unhealthy and unsustainable snack?
food is love, food is lifedrummer said:I feel like you're on the site just to debate nothing but food.
Huh? How would it end up being as bad as the animals? It's not like the world's going to go vegan overnight. It took white people four hundred years to understand it's wrong to enslave black people, another hundred for black people to be equal legally and even today they are still discriminated against. It will be long process.Siesta said:In order for a full vegan system to run around, you need to eliminate all transport of the actual food. Else it'll just end up being as bad as the animals.
Greenland is really cold, therefor it's hard to grow stuff there. Hence why they kill whales, and such in order to get food.
That's a pretty subtle way of putting the argument of veganism. Veganism is more than just about food. It's about the well being of our planet, our health and animal rights, and a plethora of other collective concepts.drummer said:I feel like you're on the site just to debate nothing but food.
Yeah, and that was the biggest mistake we ever made. I still miss my slaves.Cann!bal said:Huh? How would it end up being as bad as the animals? It's not like the world's going to go vegan overnight. It took white people four hundred years to understand it's wrong to enslave black people, another hundred for black people to be equal legally and even today they are still discriminated against. It will be long process.
Greenland is cold and it is more difficult to grow crops there, however, there's no deficiency of vegan foods there.
You still haven't answered me and have continued to ignore my questions and failed to address my evidence. That's extremely cowardly of you and I don't understand why you bothered commenting.
Is that really your defense for destroying the planet and murdering animals?Gor said:I love eating meat so who cares lelel
That's awful to hear, dude. I hope your parents will be more understanding now if you decide to make the change. They might have had false notions that you needed meat to grow up healthy and strong which is a pretty rampant misconception.Otaku said:I used to want to become a vegan when i was younger, my parents disapproved of it and said if i didn't eat what they made i wouldn't eat at all. I'm still living with them, but I'm still very interested in the idea, i'm gonna watch those documentaries when i get home, and hopefully when i move out i will be able to live the way i please. I always lurk on your threads and i always enjoy them.
Cann!bal said:Is that really your defense for destroying the planet and murdering animals?
"I love keeping ******s as slaves so who cares lelel"
"I love beating and degrading women so who cares lelel"
"I love molesting children so who cares lelel"
Do you understand now? Apathy does not justify atrocities.
Appealing to tradition doesn't justify atrocities either. This is the same argument the slaveowner used, the sexist used and the racist used. It has no merits.Gor said:Man has been eating meat since the beginning of time. That's why they exist (animals). Nothing bad has happened so far
Cann!bal said:That's awful to hear, dude. I hope your parents will be more understanding now if you decide to make the change. They might have had false notions that you needed meat to grow up healthy and strong which is a pretty rampant misconception.
Message me any time if you want to talk. I'm pretty confident that you could eat a vegan diet regardless of your parents' approval. Vegan foods are cheap as can get and I'm sure there's plenty laying around the house that you simply don't realize are there.
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