Fireworks said:Ok, well, I can't say anything about that argument. I see your point. But I guess even still, If its not organized collection of beliefs, if anything its an organized collection of disbelief's. So what does that make it?
Cann!bal said:It's not an organized collection of disbeliefs. Again, it's a lack of belief in a god, disbelief implies inaccuracies, and it's singular, not multiple.
It makes it a rejection of a faith-based proposition, like how I elaborated initially. It's like how transparent is a color and like how bald is a haircut.
Fireworks said:Ok, so then what would you classify Atheists as being?
Cann!bal said:Atheists simply. However, I find it silly there's even a word for this ideology. When I wake up, I don't contemplate how I'm a non-cosmetologist, non-astrologer or non-janitor. There shouldn't be a word for a non-theist.
Fireworks said:Ok, so then what would you classify Atheists as being?
Cann!bal said:It's not an organized collection of disbeliefs. Again, it's a lack of belief in a god, disbelief implies inaccuracies, and it's singular, not multiple.
It makes it a rejection of a faith-based proposition, like how I elaborated initially. It's like how transparent is a color and like how bald is a haircut.
Bit said:Religion is for weak minded sheeple. Religion is used to control the masses. Religious people are the sheep, atheist are the wolves.
Alt said:Its not classified as anything. If you dont like skateboarding, there isnt a specific classification for that. Also, It isnt the same as disliking skateboading, which I dont believe has a classification either.
Does that help?
Edit: nvm he got it
Terrio said:Atheism is a religion do not be naive and think otherwise.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion?s=t
Religion is defined as the following:
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons
Atheism is literally defined as
No Belief in God.
The very use of the suffix ism implies that it is a doctrine or belief and to deny that is to deny all logic. Even a collection of 'disbeliefs' is by nature a collection of beliefs.
Most bullshit thing I have ever heard. To say Religious people simply follow and not think at all, while athiests do think is bullshit. Having a fickle nature has nothing to do with religion and I am sure that a very very large percentage of atheists are actually sheep jumping on the metaphorical atheistic bandwagon
Explode said:Note, before I start, this isn't directed at anyone here, nor is it meant to flame Atheism.
Alright, here we go...
Why is it that some Atheists get this idea that they are superior to people who aren't, that religion is for the weak minded, that religion is inferior?
And another thing I wanted to mention, why is it that when some people say things against Atheists, they say "don't judge an entire group on a small group of people." and whatnot, but a lot of the time, I see Atheists doing the exact same thing, judging religion based on extremists, such as the Westboro Baptist group. Isn't that a bit hypocritical?
Anyways, I'm just going to be reading the replies to this, I wont be replying to anyone, simply because I don't have the time, in the end, it comes down to "I have my beliefs, you have yours, I wont change yours, you wont change mine".
/rant.
I wasn't judging Atheism as a whole, that is why I used the term "some" throughout the OP. Honestly, I don't think forcing religion on a child is the way to go, especially forcing them to go to a catholic school, at least the ones that only teach about the catholic religion (Same goes for other religious schools). When I have children, I plan to tell them about Christianity, and let them make their own decision, and no matter their decision, will I love them any less then I did before.Chronos said:Isn't it a bit hypocritical that you judge the entirety of Atheism on the small amount you've been exposed to because you think they're hypocritical judging other religions on what they've been exposed to? People have opinions, and people have their beliefs. Personally, I am atheist, but the overwhelming majority of my friends are religious. Why? Because their parents; they put them in CCD, forced it upon them, etc. Now, is everyone who is religious like this? No. However, in todays day and age, it pretty much is for that sole reason; parental influence forcing religion upon their kids.
Shift said:I have catholic family and they know I dont believe in god and.they still want me to do my confirmation, what do ?
Explode said:I wasn't judging Atheism as a whole, that is why I used the term "some" throughout the OP. Honestly, I don't think forcing religion on a child is the way to go, especially forcing them to go to a catholic school, at least the ones that only teach about the catholic religion (Same goes for other religious schools). When I have children, I plan to tell them about Christianity, and let them make their own decision, and no matter their decision, will I love them any less then I did before.
Explode said:Oh boy, that's the first time I've heard an Atheist use the term "sheep". Not. Trust me, Atheists are not the wolves, don't get full of yourself.
Bit said:If you believe an old book or scroll or whatever and the words of people who allegedly existed thousands of years ago, you aren't in your right mind.
Seeing is believing.
You're right though, plenty of people are likely jumping on the Atheist bandwagon, when it was many voices, like mine, speaking the truth who caused the shift. I dislike those people.
Terrio said:@bit
found your post
You are a retard for 2 reasons
Reason 1) When did I say believe in God because of the Bible lol? To use that as proof is to admit defeat before the argument begins. God exists for me due to an actual logical argument.
Reason 2) Seeing does not qualify as believing. Dont be a dumbass. Do you believe in magic? Because you see a guy disappear do you believe he really disappeared? Do you believe that superman exists? You see him in the movies. Do you think air does not exist? You cant see it!
Oh and for a bonus reason:
There is no proof what you say is fact or true. No one can 100% certainly know whether god exists or not, so their is no way to prove or know that you are telling the truth or speaking like a sophist. Please gtfo of this section you have no idea what intelligent debate entails.
Terrio said:@bit
found your post
You are a retard for 2 reasons
Reason 1) When did I say believe in God because of the Bible lol? To use that as proof is to admit defeat before the argument begins. God exists for me due to an actual logical argument.
Reason 2) Seeing does not qualify as believing. Dont be a dumbass. Do you believe in magic? Because you see a guy disappear do you believe he really disappeared? Do you believe that superman exists? You see him in the movies. Do you think air does not exist? You cant see it!
Oh and for a bonus reason:
There is no proof what you say is fact or true. No one can 100% certainly know whether god exists or not, so their is no way to prove or know that you are telling the truth or speaking like a sophist. Please gtfo of this section you have no idea what intelligent debate entails.
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