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Did we land on the moon?

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Did we land on the moon?

From what I've learned and noticed, I now believe that we, in fact, did NOT land on the moon.

Why do I think this?

Taken photographs lack a blast crater.
Upon landing, the Apollo 11's landing module failed to create a blast crater. The thrusters of the module should have displaced the dust and sediment of the moon's surface; creating a large (a bit larger than the module) crater.

The lack of dust on the landing module.
Even though there have been arguments attempting to validate the absence of a blast crater, there would have been a small amount of dust displaced from the surface. Yet, not amediumle image shows signs of such.

Oddities surrounding the iconic flag.
The "waving" of the flag was supposedly caused by movement of the rod that holds the flag up. That is not what I'm pointing out. If you look at the image(s) below (both supposedly captured from the Apollo 11 mission) you'll notice the contortion of the flag. Notice that both images show exactly the same contortions. The funny thing is, is that one picture is from the left side of the lander, while another image is taken from the right. Therefore, what is convex on one side, should be concave on the other.

Link to image: http://www.aulis.com/imagesfurther /11-40-5905+886_1.jpg

Illogical shadow lengths.
In the image below, notice the astronauts' shadows. Shadow A is much longer than the other. The two astronauts, Neil Armstrong (5'11") and Buzz Aldrin (5'10"), are very, very close in height. The one-inch difference between the two height would not result in that large of a length difference of the shadows.

Link to image: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_luna/nasa2.gif




So, what are your opinions on the subject?




Sources:
http://www.aulis.com/nasa4.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/esp_luna_30.htm
https://www.google.com/#q=neil+armstrong+height
https://www.google.com/#q=buzz+aldrin+height


 

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Yes i think that we did i watched like 5 videos on it like examining the Photos from the "Moon" but i do be leave that we have reached it
 

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Fresh said:
Yes i think that we did i watched like 5 videos on it like examining the Photos from the "Moon" but i do be leave that we have reached it
You think this, why? Please provide sufficient evidence to back up your assumptions. I wouldn't mind falsifying a few beliefs.
 

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Dont you think if the government wanted to fake this event they would of cleaned their act better/ Dont you think if YOU know whats on the moon (dust and shit) the governemnt would too? Im just saying, if it was fake/real, you wouldnt know
 

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Dont you think if the government wanted to fake this event they would of cleaned their act better/ Dont you think if YOU know whats on the moon (dust and shit) the governemnt would too? Im just saying, if it was fake/real, you wouldnt know
Don't forget that the Apollo 11 moon-landing was in 1969. The attention to detail, I guarantee, was much less than what it would be today. Also, the United States was EXTREMELY competitive when it cam to the Space Race. Losing to Russia was not an option.

With the current government secrets, how would this surprise you?
 

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Your evidence seems up to par. However, I would have to do some more research in order to be certain. I will update my response soon.
 

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If they were in a race with another smart country at the time. you think they would ahve the balls to fake it. risking a chance of Russia finding out and tell the world we had to lie to win?
 

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I think we landed on the moon the illogical shadows aren't illogical and nothing I found on this thread is true.
 

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Thief said:
If they were in a race with another smart country at the time. you think they would ahve the balls to fake it. risking a chance of Russia finding out and tell the world we had to lie to win?
I don't see how "having the balls" to fake such a feat has any relevance to this.

I don't want to go off of the topic at-hand, but have you not been keeping up-to-date with the United States' government? It's not like we haven't tapped into the private cellular devices of other world leaders. Is that not the display of the "balls" you're referring to?


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I think we landed on the moon the illogical shadows aren't illogical and nothing I found on this thread is true.
Please, do me the honor of proving me incorrect.
 

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If they were in a race with another smart country at the time. you think they would ahve the balls to fake it. risking a chance of Russia finding out and tell the world we had to lie to win?


have the balls? we fucking dropped an atomic bomb on japan twice wtf are you trying to say the US doesn't have the balls to risk poor publicity?
 

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Thank you for the better example, @"Doug".
 

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Satellite imaging of the Apollo 11 landing site says otherwise. Before anyone ludicrously declares the United States government planted everything there, let it be known the nearest landing site (Apollo 16) was an unrealistic distance away for travel to the Apollo 11 landing site, Apollo 11 had no lunar rover, and there are no lunar rover tracks or homogeneous tracks to the site of Apollo 11, which denies the possibility of the whole list of 85+ objects left on the moon after Apollo 11 being planted there.

Stop falling for these silly conspiracy theories.
 

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Cann!bal said:
planted them everything there
I'm left a bit confused by this wording.

Also, I haven't referred to any objects left on the moon's surface.
 

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I'm left a bit confused by this wording.

Also, I haven't referred to any objects left on the moon's surface.

It was an edit mishap I overlooked.

How does that refute what I said? We have photographic evidence from space it happened and there's nothing to suggest it's fraudulent. There should be no debate here.
 

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Cann!bal said:
It was an edit mishap I overlooked.

How does that refute what I said? We have photographic evidence from space it happened and there's nothing to suggest it's fraudulent. There should be no debate here.
Photographic evidence that has been flawed. I had no idea that photographs are facts and always valid. Photographs and documentation can be easily faked. You're smart enough to know such.
 

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Russia losing to America was also not an option so why didn't they fake it just like we apparently did. What Government secrets are you talking about? NSA, all the bullshit conspiracy theories? If the Government wanted to fake it then they would have gotten every detail right, 1969 or 2014 they wouldn't have fucked up then and they wouldn't fuck up now.
 

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The United States was extremely far behind in the Space Race. Russia had no need to create such a hoax.

Minor details can be overlooked.

To end this: Do you have a solid reason that validates the contortions of the flag? (Just a listed idea chosen at random.) The photographs were supplied by the government.