Did we land on the moon?

[Critical]

Damn @Cann!bal is obvi on Google or someshit.. xD

 

[Nevermind]

In response to your crater argument...

The landing module touches down on solid rock, covered in a layer of fine lunar dust, so there is no reason why it would create a blast crater. Even if the ground were less solid, the amount of thrust being produced by the engines at the point of landing and take off is very low in comparison to a landing on Earth because of the relative lack of gravitational pull.

Or, if that doesn't satisfy you, here's another response.

the lander's engines were throttled back just before landing, and it did not hover long enough to form a crater or kick up much dust, the Smithsonian's Launius said. "Science fiction movies depict this big jet of fire coming out as [spacecraft] land, but that's not how they did it on the moon," he added. "That's not the way they would do it now or anytime in the future."

As for the flag, how do you know they were taken from opposite sides? These pictures could've been taken from the same side, any variations can be explained by the use of two different cameras.

If you carefully examine the background, it is quite obvious that these are taken from the same side.

Spoiler

Finally, in response to your argument about the shadows...

There were multiple light sources, Launius said. "You've got the sun, the Earth's reflected light, light reflecting off the lunar module, the spacesuits, and also the lunar surface."

It's also important to note that the lunar surface is not flat, he added. "If an object is in a dip, you're going to get a different shadow compared to an object next to it that is on a level surface."

All of your arguments debunked using one simple source. It's quite obvious as to why you shouldn't fall for these conspiracy theories.

My Source

 

[Miles]

I'd like to argue you on this :3

What about the reflective sheets placed on the moon that you can see light reflecting back through a telescope? I think that there is enough proof.

 

[Cann!bal]

Photographic evidence that has been flawed. I had no idea that photographs are facts and always valid. Photographs and documentation can be easily faked. You're smart enough to know such.

So you thoroughly believe the University of Arizona, along with many other academic groups fabricated their results in attempt to keep the masses ignorant? Despite them being independent academic troops and having no government affiliation.

There's nothing to suggest fabrication with their results.

 

[Sector]

@Leader

The objects in the background of the image are simply perimeter markings around the landing zone. I'll provide a link shortly explaining the photograph. Check one.

The flag was placed into the ground several feet away from the lander. If the ground were to be solid, could you care to explain how they so easily got it into the ground? I have a video for you (which is most likely still processing):

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoEgr1uy0xg&feature=youtu.be[/video]

He seems to have had very little struggle getting that flag into "solid" ground. The video came straight from NASA.

Link: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/hd/apollo11_hdpage.html#.UyjqqPldUic

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I'd like to argue you on this :3

What about the reflective sheets placed on the moon that you can see light reflecting back through a telescope? I think that there is enough proof.

Are you stating that the Apollo 11 mission left reflective sheets on the surface of the moon? I have no idea where you're going with this.

If this is what you're stating, are you saying that it is not possible that these "reflective sheets" could have been placed onto the surface much, much later?

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So you thoroughly believe the University of Arizona, along with many other academic groups fabricated their results in attempt to keep the masses ignorant? Despite them being independent academic troops and having no government affiliation.

There's nothing to suggest fabrication with their results.

Please, @"Cann!bal", list your sources (other than Wikipedia). I'd like to look into your responses. Thanks.

 

[Cann!bal]

Please, @"Cann!bal", list your sources (other than Wikipedia). I'd like to look into your responses. Thanks.

I would like it if you answered my question.

http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/?archives/531-A-Stark-Beauty-All-Its-Own.html
http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/index.php?/archives/101-Apollo-11-Second-look.html

 

[Nevermind]

The flag was placed into the ground several feet away from the lander. If the ground were to be solid, could you care to explain how they so easily got it into the ground?

He seems to have had very little struggle getting that flag into "solid" ground. The video came straight from NASA.

The video is grainy. However, you can see him struggling a bit. A few twists can be seen in this video. Plus, the lander has flat feet which wouldn't easily penetrate this solid ground. Whereas a pointed surface, with less surface area, could more easily penetrate the ground.

 

[Sapphire]

I don't know man. I agree with both sides. I haven't put THAT much thought into it though.

 

[Sector]

I would like it if you answered my question.

http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/?archives/531-A-Stark-Beauty-All-Its-Own.html
http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/index.php?/archives/101-Apollo-11-Second-look.html

I apologize. My attention was immediately drawn to the image and the preceding statement. Surely, it's understandable.

Anyways, let's think about this. If I believe in a hoax, that I believe was produced by the government, why on Earth would I believe government-affiliated websites?

That's a given.

 

[Cann!bal]

I apologize. My attention was immediately drawn to the image and the preceding statement. Surely, it's understandable.

Anyways, let's think about this. If I believe in a hoax, that I believe was produced by the government, why on Earth would I believe government-affiliated websites?

That's a given.

My sources aren't government affiliated. The whole thing was conducted by independent academic troops and organizations.

"Despite them being independent academic troops and having no government affiliation."

 

[Sector]

EDIT: I was in mid-post while you posted your most recent response.

Also, @"Cann!bal", what are you implying with this image? Are you providing an image for validity of the mission are implying that I said objects were left behind on the moon. Again, I'm confused. Please, elaborate.

Also, congratulations on your 5,000th post.

 

[Cann!bal]

EDIT: I was in mid-post while you posted your most recent response.

Also, @"Cann!bal", what are you implying with this image? Are you providing an image for validity of the mission are implying that I said objects were left behind on the moon. Again, I'm confused. Please, elaborate.

Also, congratulations on your 5,000th post.

I did it to simply manifest evidence.

Thanks.

 

[Wacky]

I do but dont think we landed on the moon for certain things and evidence

 

[Sector]

I did it to simply manifest evidence.

Thanks.

I'd like to create an intermission between our debate to congratulate you on 5,000 posts.

I'll pick up on this tomorrow. I'd like to pump out some homework and finalize a few other threads.

 

[Evaughn]

I didn't really read the thread my thought has always been that I feel like we have sufficient technology to get a clear picture of the rover and flag. But then again, does it really matter much? What do you think about the whole aliens on the moon thing and that apparent lost transcript?

 

[Vengeance]

Even if Apollo 11 did not land on the moon. The later Apollo missions did. And you can not dispute that at all. They even have rocks from the moon on display. As for the shaky flag. It could have easily have been gravity tugging on the flag thus making it wave.

 

[Evaughn]

Gravity is a constant force therefore it wouldn't cause a flag to wave. At least that's what I think.

 

[Poop]

Im not even reading the thread. MYTHBUSTERS ALREADY PROVED WE DID!

 

[Vengeance]

Gravity is a constant force therefore it wouldn't cause a flag to wave. At least that's what I think.

It would still pull the flag rod and flag itself lol. How do you think meteors get to earth in the first place? They get sucked in by earths gravitational pull. This can be the same with a flag on the moon.

 

[Poop]

Also the flag moved like that cause space is a fucking vacuum bro, shit goes cray cray, ya dig?