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I can prove God exists

ginga

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Right here. The ending line is enough. I do forgive you for Catholic btw I'm just saying it's kind of coincidental.
 

Aura

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Proven facts of Spririts, Ghosts and Demons? Show me. Anything you reference must meet the standard of a "proven fact," so remember that.


Freedom said:
Right here. The ending line is enough. I do forgive you for Catholic btw I'm just saying it's kind of coincidental.

While we're at it you can show me the proven facts as well. And then you must make the connection between that, and hell. This is going to be a disaster for you guys.
 

ginga

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Now you're getting a little hostile? Because, you know the truth. "Facts" aren't always truth. You hear a 'fact', but it isn't always what it seems.

Please stop attempting to get me into an argument because I really do not want to.
 

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Freedom said:
Now you're getting a little hostile? Because, you know the truth. "Facts" aren't always truth. You hear a 'fact', but it isn't always what it seems.

Please stop attempting to get me into an argument because I really do not want to.

How? Im just making sure you guys live up to what you're claiming. If you cant do that, stop replying. Your failure to provide any sort of proof thus far speaks for itself.
 

Cann!bal

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http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

Claim your million dollars then.
 

Raptor

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Clearly you have no idea what "proven facts" are if you refer to "spirits, ghosts [and] demons" as "proven facts".
 

Phenom

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I have seen glasses smash in the kitchen when no one is there and the table and chairs turned upside down but i guess the wind just got in my house, i guess i was wrong to put proven facts its just what i believe as Iv'e witnessed it.
 

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Phenom said:
I have seen glasses smash in the kitchen when no one is there and the table and chairs turned upside down but i guess the wind just got in my house, i guess i was wrong to put proven facts its just what i believe as Iv'e witnessed it.

In every "paranormal" situation, there exists a logical and scientific explanation. Your solitary evidence as a witness is biased due to your beliefs, and due to the fact that literally nobody can corroborate your views, for all we know, you may be delusional.
 

Aura

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Thank you. I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who find their claims ridiculous.
 

ginga

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Ghosts are there, my house has and had in only my realm I guess you could say, some real unexplainable phenomena go on just like Phenom. The cause I believe was me letting them in a while ago. Then I suspected there was beyond the norm and wanted to do some personal investigating and it got out of hand. Now I'm sitting in an actively haunted environment everyday but I've overcame it.


Alt you completely dodged what I pointed out... you don't need proof for everything in the world.
 

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This was actually a very intellectual read, and that is coming from a non-believer. Good thread with a great discussion all around.
 

Aura

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When you're having a debate over the internet about something this significant, yeah, you do. You're literally expecting us to take your personal experience as sufficient evidence to justify your claims. That will never happen. I can sit here and talk about how at night I go swimming with mermaids and talk to goldfish. And if you ask me for proof, I can just say its my personal experience? And thats sufficient because you dont think everything needs to be proven? Quite frankly you're being ridiculous about this whole thing. Ghosts arent real, demons arent real, and god isnt real. I rest my case.
 

Cann!bal

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What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Extraordinary claims call for extraordinary proof. Until solid proof can be provided, your claims are invalid.
 

Sinthetta

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I still don't believe in God. I don't see how you proved that God exists either.

All I have to say is if a God sends someone to burn for eternity because they don't believe in him then I think I'd rather be jammin' out with Satan then worship a narcissist who punishes you for not believing in him. lol
 

Michael

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God doesn't send you to eternal damnation; you do. He has given us a choice of free will as you can see. You get yourself there by not following him and sinning without repenting, etc.
 

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Michael said:
God doesn't send you to eternal damnation; you do. He has given us a choice of free will as you can see. You get yourself there by not following him and sinning without repenting, etc.

Let's say God does exist, just for a second. For him to create the universe, he would have to be some kind of scientist. Wouldn't God be proud of atheists for pursuing greater truth through evidence, rather than blindly following?
 

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Michael said:
God doesn't send you to eternal damnation; you do. He has given us a choice of free will as you can see. You get yourself there by not following him and sinning without repenting, etc.

If I burn for eternity because I masturbate, swear, don't believe in something, etc. then God is evil.

And saying "you get yourself there" is pretty stupid. Christians who think ANYONE deserves to burn FOREVER because of God's silly laws are also evil. Why on earth would you ever condone such activity?
 

Miles

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I don't want to start an argument, but how do you combat something like this?

 

Michael

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Let's say God does exist, just for a second. For him to create the universe, he would have to be some kind of scientist. Wouldn't God be proud of atheists for pursuing greater truth through evidence, rather than blindly following?

Not entirely, why would he have to be a scientist? I've no clue how he would have created the universe, no one truly knows how or why and we will find out soon.



I wouldn't want you to burn forever. You can go masturbate over a donkey, a chair, your television, that doesn't matter. If you masturbate to pornographic content then that will fall under lust, since you're pleasuring yourself to god's children. I don't want anyone to burn forever, I want every living person on this earth to go to heaven.