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I don't believe in god

Adam

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If God did that, then people worshiping him wouldn't mean anything now would it? Just like if you cheat and get all maxed levels in a game, it loses its value. It no longer has meaning. And actually Judaism, Islam, and Christianity branch from the same thing. Same God.

You have a point there but think about all the bad things in thw world that happened, if there was really a god don't you think he would stop the rape, murder, the corrupt governments, terrorists and other horrible things that happen in our world.

What about the other 10,000 religions? Why hasn't he given any signs? Where is the proof he created the world.
I don't get why people think atheists are so bad as there is no hard proof god was ever here.

God doesn't stop all of that because he gives everyone their own choice on how to live their own life. He doesn't force anyone to do anything.

He forces to people to obey him or they go to hell. I wouldn't call that free will.

I have no burden on me to be a good person just so I go to heaven. I will do what I want because in the end, I'll become ash. This does not mean I have no morals, I obviously do. I'm not going to go out on the street and kill people because they are christian or they are Muslims(What religious people do). I will be happy to argue with a person(over the internet or IRL) in a peaceful discussion.
 

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You have a point there but think about all the bad things in the world that happened, if there was really a god don't you think he would stop the rape, murder, the corrupt governments, terrorists and other horrible things that happen in our world.

What about the other 10,000 religions? Why hasn't he given any signs? Where is the proof he created the world.
I don't get why people think atheists are so bad as there is no hard proof god was ever here.

Regarding a statement earlier about different religions and such:
God separated man so we wouldn't be able to work together. He made it so we wouldn't all get along perfectly and all spoke different languages. His reason for this was because if we all got together and worked together, we would be able to accomplish anything. Quote from Genesis 11 - "The people are united, and they all speak the same language. After this, nothing they set out to do will be impossible for them!" The story I am referring too is The Tower of Babel.

Regarding your first question/statement:
No. I am guessing you never heard the story of Noah's Arc and the great flood. (Not generalized, straight from the Bible) Quote from Gensis 8 - "I will never again curse the ground because of the human race, even though everything they think or imagine is bent toward evil from childhood. I will never again destroy all living things."

Regarding you second statement:
I think there is a reason why there are a main set of religions. I also think there is a reason why some religions branch off of others. Where is the proof he didn't create the world? The fact the world is even here is enough proof for me to believe he did create it. Who said atheists are bad? The only thing I said is that people that don't respect others is bad. People that take "shits" on other people's beliefs.


Nothing I said above is intended to change anyone's beliefs. They are just for this debate and people are free to believe whatever makes them happy. If worshiping the Sun makes you happy, then go for it. If believing you know everything about the universe makes you happy, keep believing. If you like playing video games all day long, keep playing. :)
 

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If one thing in the bible is proved wrong, isn't the whole bible then proved wrong by default? The bible says everything in it is true therefore if one thing is wrong everything else is as well.
 

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Adam said:
If one thing in the bible is proved wrong, isn't the whole bible then proved wrong by default? The bible says everything in it is true therefore if one thing is wrong everything else is as well.

Apply that to anything else and see where that gets you.

lol
 

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Deathcrow said:
Adam said:
If one thing in the bible is proved wrong, isn't the whole bible then proved wrong by default? The bible says everything in it is true therefore if one thing is wrong everything else is as well.

Apply that to anything else and see where that gets you.

lol

That's the thing. You can't apply it to anything else. Science has been proved wrong multiple times but no one(at least no good scientist ) says they are right with indisputable evidence. Now god, if he was real, would know everything was true because apparently he is all knowing. Humans, even scientists, are just normal old humans.
 

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Adam said:
Deathcrow said:
Adam said:
If one thing in the bible is proved wrong, isn't the whole bible then proved wrong by default? The bible says everything in it is true therefore if one thing is wrong everything else is as well.

Apply that to anything else and see where that gets you.

lol

That's the thing. You can't apply it to anything else. Science has been proved wrong multiple times but no one(at least no good scientist ) says they are right with indisputable evidence. Now god, if he was real, would know everything was true because apparently he is all knowing. Humans, even scientists, are just normal old humans.

God didn't create the bible. It is a book made by man. I don't see where you are going with this. Lol.

If I don't respond quickly it is because I am in my circuits class right now.
 

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Deathcrow said:
Adam said:
Deathcrow said:
Apply that to anything else and see where that gets you.

lol

That's the thing. You can't apply it to anything else. Science has been proved wrong multiple times but no one(at least no good scientist ) says they are right with indisputable evidence. Now god, if he was real, would know everything was true because apparently he is all knowing. Humans, even scientists, are just normal old humans.

God didn't create the bible. It is a book made by man. I don't see where you are going with this. Lol.

If I don't respond quickly it is because I am in my circuits class right now.

The bible is gods word interpreted by man. It's from gods mouth to mans hand.
 

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You guys know about the events of birds falling from the sky for a second time for unknown reasons this new years, and fish being brought up to sea, dead.

Zephaniah 1:3

"I will sweep away both men and animals; I will sweep away the birds of the air and the fish of the sea. The wicked will have only heaps of rubble when I cut off man from the face of the earth," declares the LORD.

Sort of scary if you think about all of the events that has actually happened.

Also, there was a loud trumpet noise coming from the atmosphere that no one could explain. That's also to be known as the 7 trumpets. "Seven trumpets are sounded, one at a time, to queue apocalyptic events that were seen in the vision of the Revelation of Christ Jesus. The seven trumpets are sounded by seven angels and the events that follow are described in detail from Revelation Chapters 8 to 11. According to Revelation 8:1-2, the angels sound these trumpets after the breaking of the seventh seal. These seals secured the apocalyptic document, that was in the right hand of Him who sits on the main throne."
 

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I also don't believe in a supreme being nor do I look down on those who do. Humans look for constant reinsurance they like to believe in things greater then themselves. However, there are some that just believe and there are some that go all out and get way to into it. The all out people tend to be a little crazy. All imo. :p
 

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Zoo Ranger said:
I also don't believe in a supreme being nor do I look down on those who do. Humans look for constant reinsurance they like to believe in things greater then themselves. However, there are some that just believe and there are some that go all out and get way to into it. The all out people tend to be a little crazy. All imo. :p

I definitely agree with you that some people go a little overboard and act outright crazy. But there are a lot of crazy people who aren't religious, and there is also of course the possibility that some crazy people are religious and somehow their craziness and religion intertwine. =p

Conclusion: There are lots of crazy people out there, some religious and some not.
 

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Here's my look on it.

Christians believe God created the Earth, Mankind, and every other living and thing that we have on our planet to this day. But, people have doubt when they think of "Who created God?"

The way I see it is, nothing. In order to create God, God would need a creator. His creator would need a creator. His creator's creator would need a creator. So on and so forth. Thus, leading to a time period, which would extend waaay past science's theory on how the Earth was created 4 billion years ago.

Also, the reason God doesn't make everyone worship him, praise him and make everyone's life about him, is because when Jesus was born, people didn't worship him. So why would he now, if when his son was alive, he didn't.

That's my take on it. I'm sure people will say I'm wrong, don't know what I'm talking about or I just flat out don't make sense, but that is partially how I see it.

There's been multiple accounts where things in the Bible, occur somewhat.
 

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My family is Christian, and yeah I go to church because my parents drag me around, I'm too young to give a rat's ass about who created the Earth or whether "God" exists.
 

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My family is Christian, and yeah I go to church because my parents drag me around, I'm too young to give a rat's ass about who created the Earth or whether "God" exists.
I am the same age as you and I give a rat's ass. You should start thinking about it.
 

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My family is Christian, and yeah I go to church because my parents drag me around, I'm too young to give a rat's ass about who created the Earth or whether "God" exists.
I am the same age as you and I give a rat's ass. You should start thinking about it.

I don't see any reason to start thinking about it at 15.
 

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On a personal note, I don't really think we should care who believes it who doesn't. It's a persons opinion and you should respect the even if they do believe it. Atheists look down on people who believe it and think they are retarded or stupid or something. Look at Adam for example, he thinks he's super smart at 15 cause he doesn't believe in god when he hasn't even held hands with a girl other then his mom. He thinks he's smart because he knows what his age knows.. In reality he's just a punk 15 year old who hasn't even gotten his hands dirty working cause his parents buy him things and he doesn't pay bills.

As you age your mind differs, you see what real life is. Paying bills, real friends not College or Highschool friends, work and no time for anything. Sometimes you just want to bitch to something/someone even if they don't or do exist without hurting anyone.

God is something people use to rant, talk to when no-one else will listen. It doesn't mean he exists or doesn't quite frankly who knows, the argument can go both ways.


There's no reason to rush thinking into something when you don't know for sure. It's a cycle, people believe cause they are forced then they don't cause they think there parents were forcing them, then later on they believe as they age cause they want to "Get Married" and etc.



TLDR; WHo the fuck cares who believes what, respect people for how they act.
 

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Mike said:
On a personal note, I don't really think we should care who believes it who doesn't. It's a persons opinion and you should respect the even if they do believe it. Atheists look down on people who believe it and think they are retarded or stupid or something. Look at Adam for example, he thinks he's super smart at 15 cause he doesn't believe in god when he hasn't even held hands with a girl other then his mom. He thinks he's smart because he knows what his age knows.. In reality he's just a punk 15 year old who hasn't even gotten his hands dirty working cause his parents buy him things and he doesn't pay bills.

As you age your mind differs, you see what real life is. Paying bills, real friends not College or Highschool friends, work and no time for anything. Sometimes you just want to b*tch to something/someone even if they don't or do exist without hurting anyone.

God is something people use to rant, talk to when no-one else will listen. It doesn't mean he exists or doesn't quite frankly who knows, the argument can go both ways.


There's no reason to rush thinking into something when you don't know for sure. It's a cycle, people believe cause they are forced then they don't cause they think there parents were forcing them, then later on they believe as they age cause they want to "Get Married" and etc.



TLDR; WHo the f*ck cares who believes what, respect people for how they act.

Its not that I am a atheist, I just don't really believe in a higher power, and yea it is somewhat true about Adam but he is smart for 15 years old and can debate well.
Everyone has there own preferences and I respect that, but I just wanted to see what others had to say about the topic. I am not forcing anyone to post or trying to force them to talk when they don't want to, as they don't have to.
 

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Very well said Mike.
 

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Domcon said:
I mean it is a random story any whack job could of made up thousands of years ago, religion is just a big waist of time
You're entitled to your opinion. I, however, believe there's a God out there.
 

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I dont believe either but I Cant assure u he doesnt exist thats why I dont go around telling people he doesnt. :S
 
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