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Is God real?

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Yes, I believe there is a god what about all those people who have near death experiences and tell us about what they saw?
 

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Yes, I believe there is a god what about all those people who have near death experiences and tell us about what they saw?

What about all those people who have near death experiences and tell us about how they saw nothing? Not to mention the extensive amount of contradictory claims, which do dictate supernatural claim. In NDE's, the brain discharges mass intervals of DMT. It wouldn't surprising to figure out they were in a hallucinogenic trance.

If there was valid evidence of a god, the populace of secularism and atheism among elite scientists wouldn't be 93%.
 

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There is literally no way to prove or disprove a god. Cann!bal, is there valid evidence there isn't a God?
 

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There is literally no way to prove or disprove a god. Cann!bal, is there valid evidence there isn't a God?

That's called shifting the burden of proof. The one making the claim that god exists must provide proof, not the one rejecting the claim.
 

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That's called shifting the burden of proof. The one making the claim that god exists must provide proof, not the one rejecting the claim.

The law of "thermodynamics" states chaos cannot form order. That is science. The earth is working perfectly. It has it's own order.

It was observed and written down by many people.
 

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The law of "thermodynamics" states chaos cannot form order. That is science. The earth is working perfectly. It has it's own order.

It was observed and written down by many people.

"The second law of thermodynamics applies universally, but, as everyone can see, that does not mean that everything everywhere is always breaking down. The second law allows local decreases in entropy offset by increases elsewhere. The second law does not say that order from disorder is impossible; in fact, as anyone can see, order from disorder happens all the time.

The maximum entropy of a closed system of fixed volume is constant, but because the universe is expanding, its maximum entropy is ever increasing, giving ever more room for order to form (Stenger 1995, 228).

Disorder and entropy are not the same (Styer 2000). The second law of thermodynamics deals with entropy. There are no laws about things tending to "break down."

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CF/CF001_2.html

"The second law of thermodynamics says no such thing. It says that heat will not spontaneously flow from a colder body to a warmer one or, equivalently, that total entropy (a measure of useful energy) in a closed system will not decrease. This does not prevent increasing order because

the earth is not a closed system; sunlight (with low entropy) shines on it and heat (with higher entropy) radiates off. This flow of energy, and the change in entropy that accompanies it, can and will power local decreases in entropy on earth.
entropy is not the same as disorder. Sometimes the two correspond, but sometimes order increases as entropy increases. (Aranda-Espinoza et al. 1999; Kestenbaum 1998) Entropy can even be used to produce order, such as in the sorting of molecules by size (Han and Craighead 2000).
even in a closed system, pockets of lower entropy can form if they are offset by increased entropy elsewhere in the system.
In short, order from disorder happens on earth all the time."

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CF/CF001.html
 

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The law of "thermodynamics" states chaos cannot form order. That is science. The earth is working perfectly. It has it's own order.

It was observed and written down by many people.
The earth is not 'working perfectly' we're slowly heating up, and heading towards a black hole somewhere out there, our own sun will consume the earth before we reach it though. I would phrase it more as "perfect chaos". It's full of short-term sustainability (in comparison to the universe), but is still destined to hemmorage itself, and die altogether.
 

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Is there a god? Who knows, no one.
 

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no that is all fake stuff made up by retarded Al Gore
 

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no that is all fake stuff made up by retarded Al Gore
Wow, you're a genius.

can someone give this man an award?
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the creation was observed & recorded... by God. It's simple science.


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Wow, you're a genius.

can someone give this man an award?
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he's not a scientist is what i'm saying so he has no authority to say that...
 

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No one knows the true answer too this. Kind of sad we live in a world where we believe, or are raised to believe in what a book says. This is the million dollar question.
 

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No one knows the true answer too this. Kind of sad we live in a world where we believe, or are raised to believe in what a book says. This is the million dollar question.
I hope that what the Bible says is true. I would feel like I wasted my life if I ever found out that the Bible was a lie. There must have been a strong inspiration to write this book.
 

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I hope that what the Bible says is true. I would feel like I wasted my life if I ever found out that the Bible was a lie. There must have been a strong inspiration to write this book.

How do you know it's true in the first place? There's no evidence to support it.
 

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So, would that explain "Which came first, the chicken or the egg"?

Edit: Quantum Physics...
 

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How do you know it's true in the first place? There's no evidence to support it.
I believe because I was raised to do so. Faith is trusting in something that you cannot see.
 

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@God seems to be around here somewhere, so yeah he's real.
 

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the creation was observed & recorded... by God. It's simple science.


he's not a scientist is what i'm saying so he has no authority to say that...


The sun will go supernova eventually, and destroy the earth, al gore didn't say that. it's just a fact.