Is God Real?

Cann!bal · Jan 17, 2013

This is one of the major questions in life. You're either Atheist or you are religious and believe in a god, so, I have to ask... Do you believe in God? If so, what makes you believe that he is real?

I myself am still skeptical, but I would consider myself Atheist if I were to identify my religion. There is no real evidence of his existence. And why is God depicted as a benevolent person, even though he tried to commit genocide? Science refutes his existence. I believe he does not exist.

Please leave your opinion and reasoning on whether you believe in him or not.

aMbition · Jan 17, 2013

I believe in God or a Savor because I am Catholic and I have been through a lot of hardships with my family and I really think God has been here he has done something to help with me

Although his existence may not be here as of today with Proof I still believe in him but we all have different opinions though.

But tbh it is a bit weird to figure things like these out..

Cann!bal · Jan 17, 2013

I think this question belongs in the category of things you don't want to know the truth about. I'm trying to look at this from a religious person's standpoint, but I can't find the reason why they would believe in him in the first place.

I'm starting to believe that perhaps religion or the concept of a god was originally created for the purpose to keep a society civilized and everyone fell for it? And the original creator never told anyone it was all fake or perhaps no one believed him once he told everyone it was fake. I just don't see it. I want to be enlightened but this whole thing is spurious. Maybe the concept of a deity was created by some lunatic who thought he was superhuman, and got a bunch of more maniacs to join his cult and worship him or something. I don't know, I'm just making possible theories on how the concept of a God was made.

Brian · Jan 17, 2013

Cannibаl said:
I think this question belongs in the category of things you don't want to know the truth about. I'm trying to look at this from a religious person's standpoint, but I can't find the reason why they would believe in him in the first place.

I'm starting to believe that perhaps religion or the concept of a god was originally created for the purpose to keep a society civilized and everyone fell for it? And the original creator never told anyone it was all fake or perhaps no one believed him once he told everyone it was fake. I just don't see it. I want to be enlightened but this whole thing is spurious. Maybe the concept of a deity was created by some lunatic who thought he was superhuman, and got a bunch of more maniacs to join his cult and worship him or something. I don't know, I'm just making possible theories on how the concept of a God was made.

Fuck god, SATAN ALL DAY! *Looks at my Post count, realizes I'm joking*

Anyways, this question has me tripping sometimes. It seems like we're forced to believe there's god in our society, even though there's no evidence of this "God". I believe there is a god, but I'm not very religious. It's kind of scary to sit down and actually talk about God and look at the facts, because from a scientific standpoint, there is none. Also, nice paragraph Cannibal. That really got me thinking.

cas · Jan 17, 2013

I believe there is a God, somethings just can't be explained, like the paranormal, deja vu or why Nikki Minaj is famous.

paul · Jan 17, 2013

I believe in God, I'm Catholic and I believe in creation. But I also believe in science, in evolution. Though I cannot prove God is real I still believe he is. I maybe wrong, God can just be some story passed through thousands of years to keep people in line. But the reason I choose to believe is that when I die it isn't the end for me or my family, that there is a Heaven. But we will never know if God exist or not until our time has come.

I should also say I don't practice or go to church. I'm not some nut job that believes Jesus is going to come and start the rapture. Just a normal guy who believes in God.

Descend · Jan 17, 2013

There is no definitive answer to this question.

Just to give a thought though, you do not have to either be athiest or religious. You can choose not to label yourself at all. I am neither athiest nor religious, I am me and own my personal belief, that's it.

If I had to categorize myself as anything, I guess I would be agnostic. I neither confirm nor deny the existence of a deity.

I could go further into this but I don't have the time right now.

Paul H. · Jan 18, 2013

Cannibаl said:
Science refutes his existence.

Science cannot refute God's existence. God could be a God who just minds his own business and doesn't give a damn about the world. I don't believe that is the case however.

Philosophers have thought about God through the ages and they always come up by reason that Gods exists. Let's take Thomas Aquinas:

The unmoved mover argument asserts that, from our experience of motion in the universe (motion being the transition from potentiality to actuality) we can see that there must have been an initial mover. Aquinas argued that whatever is in motion must be put in motion by another thing, so there must be an unmoved mover.

Aquinas' argument from first cause started with the premise that it is impossible for a being to cause itself (because it would have to exist before it caused itself) and that it is impossible for there to be an infinite chain of causes, which would result in infinite regress. Therefore, there must be a first cause, itself uncaused.

The argument from necessary being asserts that all beings are contingent, meaning that it is possible for them not to exist. Aquinas argued that if everything can possibly not exist, there must have been a time when nothing existed; as things exist now, there must exist a being with necessary existence, regarded as God.

Also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_Lanciano

That's a scientifically proven living piece of human flesh, a Catholic Eucharistic miracle. be skeptical about the stigmata and other miracles, but you can't explain that one.

Q.E.D.

A few notes:

A Catholic priest came up with the idea of the Big Bang Theory. Religion and science are not opposites.

If you don't believe in God, what is there to live for? There's no ultimate goal, no afterlife.

Kill · Jan 18, 2013

You'll drive yourself clinically insane trying to find the answer to this question.

Quad · Jan 18, 2013

Is God real. FUck Yes. Is the definition of God true based on christianity fuck no.

Whomever created the universe and had no creator is by definition God. He must exist since by causaul effect the first creator cannot be created. But he is outside the system and is far from the christian definition.

People · Jan 18, 2013

their is no physical proof, but i believe yes. its up to you to believe this is such a hrd subject.

Flippy · Jan 18, 2013

Personally I don't believe in god, there's no proof. If they say "Who made the Earth?" and they say "God" and then I would say "Who made god?"

Paul H. · Jan 18, 2013

Flippy said:
Personally I don't believe in god, there's no proof. If they say "Who made the Earth?" and they say "God" and then I would say "Who made god?"

The definition of God is a being that is outside of time, omnipotent, and hence doesn't need to be created.

Cann!bal · Jan 18, 2013

Paul H. said:
Science cannot refute God's existence. God could be a God who just minds his own business and doesn't give a damn about the world. I don't believe that is the case however.

Philosophers have thought about God through the ages and they always come up by reason that Gods exists. Let's take Thomas Aquinas:

Also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_Lanciano

That's a scientifically proven living piece of human flesh, a Catholic Eucharistic miracle. be skeptical about the stigmata and other miracles, but you can't explain that one.

Q.E.D.

A few notes:

A Catholic priest came up with the idea of the Big Bang Theory. Religion and science are not opposites.

If you don't believe in God, what is there to live for? There's no ultimate goal, no afterlife.

Here's a interesting debate video on whether god science refutes science or not. I would recommend watching it, but it is an hour long.
[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKNd_S3iXfs[/video]

Here's the aftermath, too.
"Before the debate, the audience voted 37 percent in favor of the motion and 34 percent against, with 29 percent undecided. After hearing from the two sides, 50 percent said they agreed with the motion "Science Refutes God," while 38 percent did not. That made the side arguing for the motion the winners."

And about the Miracle of Lanciano:

All the scientific examinations since then, have only proven that it is real human flesh and blood, nothing else. It was claimed that the flesh and blood was once wine and bread, but this claim was made over 1300 years ago by a priest with no supporting evidence.

And also, if it really is the flesh of Jesus, then why haven't we performed any DNA tests on it? So that we could prove Jesus' existence. The tests would show that he has no biological father and thus prove his existence.

Paul H. · Jan 18, 2013

The kicker is it's living flesh, not dead iirc. On mobile now or is give a longer reply.

Shot · Jan 18, 2013

You're either atheist or religious and believe in God?
hell no, why can't someone go on with life without religion?
jessh! and i'm pretty sure atheism is a religion, just sayin'.

Cann!bal · Jan 18, 2013

Paul H. said:
The kicker is it's living flesh, not dead iirc. On mobile now or is give a longer reply.

Well, 1300 years ago it was living flesh according to the priest once the transubstantiation supposedly occurred. Now it's dead flesh, I couldn't find any articles that said otherwise. Plus, I don't even think that's possible.

Cole · Jan 18, 2013

Obviously there isn't really any solid physical proof, but if you believe, and devote yourself to the religion, you will indeed see that God, is very much, indeed, REAL.

Cann!bal · Jan 18, 2013

Shot said:
You're either atheist or religious and believe in God?
hell no, why can't someone go on with life without religion?
jessh! and i'm pretty sure atheism is a religion, just sayin'.

Descend already pointed that out, my mistake, but no need for repeats.

Cole said:
Obviously there isn't really any solid physical proof, but if you believe, and devote yourself to the religion, you will indeed see that God, is very much, indeed, REAL.

So you're trying to say that you can prove God's existence psychologically? What. Explain further, please.

Also, even if I were to devote my life to God, I would rather not follow someone who has never been proven to exist. If we were to figure out that he doesn't exist, we would look like a bunch of fools.

Cole · Jan 18, 2013

Generally, Christians live longer and happier lifes than those who aren't... (this is a statistic I read a year ago) and it is indeed accurate.

So, even if he isn't real (which I believe he is) it's not like you wasted your time and look like a fool, because at the end of the day, you lived a long, happy and great life because you lived a certain way and you had faith in something, that may of not been real, but you guided yourself in the right direction, by believing that there is something out there watching everything.

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