Is God Real?

[Pacino]

I'm specifically talking about these verses.

"1 The Lord said to Moses,

Spoiler: Verses that are in between.

“Say to the Israelites: ‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing in Israel who sacrifices any of his children to Molek is to be put to death. The members of the community are to stone him. 3 I myself will set my face against him and will cut him off from his people; for by sacrificing his children to Molek, he has defiled my sanctuary and profaned my holy name. 4 If the members of the community close their eyes when that man sacrifices one of his children to Molek and if they fail to put him to death, 5 I myself will set my face against him and his family and will cut them off from their people together with all who follow him in prostituting themselves to Molek.

6 “‘I will set my face against anyone who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute themselves by following them, and I will cut them off from their people.

7 “‘Consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am the Lord your God. 8 Keep my decrees and follow them. I am the Lord, who makes you holy.

9 “‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head.

10 “‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.

11 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his father’s wife, he has dishonored his father. Both the man and the woman are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

12 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his daughter-in-law, both of them are to be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.

22 "If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." [Leviticus 20:1-13 New International Version]

So Moses made this up? Why would he even make this up? And you're agreeing with me that the Bible is unreliable, yes?

Might be that Moses hates gays. I partially agree.

 

[Cann!bal]

Might be that Moses hates gays. I partially agree.

Thanks for proving my point that the Bible is unreliable.

 

[Megaman]

Thanks for proving my point that the Bible is unreliable.

any "fact" or quote from the bible in my eyes is ridiculous. That is an ancient text, and it will have its share of semi-accurate predictions. The guy who predicted 2012 made so many predictions, and eventually one came true. I've had my fair share of miracles, such as surviving 9/11 when I live only a few blocks a way with only a little lung problem. I do not credit that to god, I credit that to luck

 

[Pacino]

Thanks for proving my point that the Bible is unreliable.

Only because God never aproved Bible but I believe everything that was written about Jesus' life in general is true.

 

[jtg]

God might be real but religion is bs

 

[Flashdrive]

I guess so bud, or now a days it's not like the old days. I never said that it was such a horrible thing! I have an uncle that is gay and I already told him what I think. we still have mad love for each other.

are you gay or something?

do you think God is real?

I'm not gay.

And I don't believe in God, or any god i'm a very firm atheist.

 

[Darkness1]

I myself am an atheist, but not by choice you see. My parents have grown up where they haven't gone to a church, mosque, temple, or anything of the sort. They never really had the time as they all grew up working at a restaurant by the age of 12 and my dad ran away at 15. It sort of kept going that way, as I myself am working at the age of 15. I never really have time to learn the ways of any religion, unless one of those is science. I understand that everything changes by expansion of the cells and matter, but it all had to start somewhere so I like to believe there was a "force" (aka God) that started something. But in all honesty if he did anything at all he's stopped and let everything work how it does, on its own.

 

[Cesar]

It is common sense that the only way for humans to procreate is with man and woman, but there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.

What do you mean warning? To warn people that homosexuals are evil and need to murdered for being who they are?


Not everyone who defends homosexuals is a homosexual. That's very ignorant thinking.

been told that plenty times

 

[Andy]

Only because God never aproved Bible but I believe everything that was written about Jesus' life in general is true.

If God never approved the Bible, How would anyone know if God actually did approve something?

 

[Andy]

Who can prove to me that God is in fact real?
Someone tell me how God is so good.

 

[TehStickle]

Who can prove to me that God is in fact real?
Someone tell me how God is so good.

We just had a whole convo. Look at the posts before yours.

 

[Shadow]

To me, this is a untestable idea, therefore you cannot prove if someone or something is there or not.

 

[Yeti]

Maybe he's real, if so, I don't believe he is a human.

 

[Andy]

Maybe he's real, if so, I don't believe he is a human.

People say that he is a soul not a human.
But then again I don't believe in God.

 

[Cesar]

yall dudes need jesus in yo life

Spoiler

jk

Spoiler

dont report this swaggy

 

[Cann!bal]

I'm trying to come to a conclusion. I believe the only two reasonable solutions are atheism and deism. I only say deism because of the cosmological argument...

1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
2. The Universe began to exist.
3. Therefore, the Universe had a cause.

In other words something cannot come from nothing, there needs to be a cause. But that argument is still contradictory, because if God is the creator of the universe, then who created God? Like the logic of the cosmological argument proclaims "Whatever begins to exist has a cause.", there's is a necessity of a creator or a cause to exist. That's one of the reasons why I'm leaning towards atheism foremost rather than deism.

Also, for people who believe that the universe is fine tuned and that is proof of a divine being, then why is our galaxy the Milky Way heading on a straight collision with the Andromeda galaxy? Things like this and other disasters like it are happening to galaxies far away each and every day. How is that fine tuned?

 

[Cann!bal]

Going to review some points I haven't made.

Also, watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=9FiHRVb_uE0&NR=1 http://youtu.be/8P2mS-AImeY and read this: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

If you don't believe in God, what is there to live for? There's no ultimate goal, no afterlife.

Why does life need a purpose or a goal?

But he(God) is outside the system and is far from the christian definition.

How can something exist outside space(assuming that's what you meant by "outside the system.")? You must exist within space to exist. Saying God exists outside time and space is an illogical cop-out.

The definition of God is a being that is outside of time, omnipotent, and hence doesn't need to be created.

"Saying God exists outside time and space is an illogical cop-out."
God is obviously not omnipotent.

Obviously there isn't really any solid physical proof, but if you believe, and devote yourself to the religion, you will indeed see that God, is very much, indeed, REAL.

You could say the same about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I hope you see my point.

Generally, Christians live longer and happier lifes than those who aren't... (this is a statistic I read a year ago) and it is indeed accurate.

I much rather live in a life of reality than a delusional one.

So, even if he isn't real (which I believe he is) it's not like you wasted your time and look like a fool, because at the end of the day, you lived a long, happy and great life because you lived a certain way and you had faith in something, that may of not been real, but you guided yourself in the right direction, by believing that there is something out there watching everything.

You sure would have wasted your life and looked like a fool from my perspective. You do not need something imaginary to guide you in the right direction.

It seems sometimes religious people have more common sense than non-religious.

Hahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahaha, nice joke.

I'd rather waste my time thinking there's a heaven then ignoring it and then go to hell when you die. Honestly there's nothing to lose.

Nothing to lose? Has the thought that you're believing in the wrong God ever crossed your mind? The Flying Spaghetti Monster could be the one true God for all we know.

I know he still does exist , I'm saying because you ask who created God... what if he was never created, just always there.

That's also an illogical cop-out.

I'll continue doing this tomorrow.