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Should homosexuals be able to adopt children?
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Kill said:
You need to calm down child.
I didn't say there's anything wrong with being gay, please quote me where I said that.
You're rather ignorant and emotional right now.
Women are shit. I wish they weren't, but they are. Until one comes around and changes that, I will continue to believe what I do because my observations have not disproved me.
TheHackerHD said:
Right? This kid freaked out over a simple debate.
No I do not think it would be right nor do I believe in Gay Marriage. I can give you a hundred reasons why I don't and I could receive a hundred reasons why they should be, I understand both sides but I still do not believe in it.
Kill said:
If I am sexist so be it.
I know enough about women to manipulate all of them. I have performed experiments on hundreds if not thousands of them. I do not want to be right in my beliefs.
I firmly believe men are superior to women.
I do not wish to believe this, because doing so means that I will likely never have my own version of true love.
Now onto your second thing, I am not homophobic, yet in my experiences they all try and seduce me and have sex with me, I have had two attempt to drug and rape/molest me. This is based on MY OWN experiences.
I do not care if you are black, white, gay, straight, bi, transgendered, man, woman, or even a purple alien.
If you treat me the way I deserve to be treated, which is the way I have tried to treat people my entire life (though in the past few years or so I said fuck that and became a dick who walks all over and pushes everyone over, and am much happier as a result), I will respect you and be the best friend you've ever had.
Now, do I sound like a bad person to you?
Do I sound judgmental, or closed minded?
Do I sound like I don't give people a chance?
If you believe that, then you truly are ignorant.
This topic is fairly vague and confusing.
What we have here is a complement of two different subjects thrown into one.
1.) Same sex marriage
2.) Being a parent
Topic 1.) Same-sex marriage:
-You can say anything you want about a man loving another man, or a woman loving another woman. In the world, we are all equal and everyone bleeds red. There is nothing wrong with someone falling in love with their same sex. It is no different than falling in love with your dog, or your cat, or your favorite spaghetti meal. You can rant to me all you want about what the Bible says about same-sex marriages and how it is morally wrong, but everything we do would then be a moral disaster if we follow the laws of the Bible.
Topic 2.) Being a parent:
-Not every human being in this world (man or woman) is fit to be a parent. Some to most men or women refuse to be parents just because they do not want to be held responsible for the caring of another person, and choose to live their lives the way they want. I know plenty of people who are retired, and have absolutely no children just because they didn't want the responsibility, and they were able to be more successful in their lives. On the other hand, people who are not FIT to be parents will end up having children, and ultimately end up ruining their life by making poor decisions, and abusing their responsibilities of taking care of another human being. I also know plenty of people who are NOT fit to take care of children, and live in poverty. (Ex. I know a girl named Kate who has three children with three different fathers. She lives in a busted apartment that is so horrible, all it would take is one person with their head on their shoulders to walk in the door, and see the maggots on the floor, and dirty diapers laying everywhere, and call DCFS to get those kids to a better place. Not a very healthy living environment.)
How these topics should NOT be mixed:
These two topics on their own raise questions whether anyone is a valued parent. As same-sex marriages go, I see no problems in this as I have plenty of gay friends (men and women) and they are just as normal, if not, more friendly and normal, than a heterosexual like myself.
But, to go onto your topic of whether homosextuals/lesbians should be able to adopt/create children themselves, Yes. I am a firm believer that if you are a responsible enough adult that you can love whoever you want, and if you can take care of a child, there is no issue why your sexuality should effect why you can or cannot take in a child.
What we have here is a complement of two different subjects thrown into one.
1.) Same sex marriage
2.) Being a parent
Topic 1.) Same-sex marriage:
-You can say anything you want about a man loving another man, or a woman loving another woman. In the world, we are all equal and everyone bleeds red. There is nothing wrong with someone falling in love with their same sex. It is no different than falling in love with your dog, or your cat, or your favorite spaghetti meal. You can rant to me all you want about what the Bible says about same-sex marriages and how it is morally wrong, but everything we do would then be a moral disaster if we follow the laws of the Bible.
Topic 2.) Being a parent:
-Not every human being in this world (man or woman) is fit to be a parent. Some to most men or women refuse to be parents just because they do not want to be held responsible for the caring of another person, and choose to live their lives the way they want. I know plenty of people who are retired, and have absolutely no children just because they didn't want the responsibility, and they were able to be more successful in their lives. On the other hand, people who are not FIT to be parents will end up having children, and ultimately end up ruining their life by making poor decisions, and abusing their responsibilities of taking care of another human being. I also know plenty of people who are NOT fit to take care of children, and live in poverty. (Ex. I know a girl named Kate who has three children with three different fathers. She lives in a busted apartment that is so horrible, all it would take is one person with their head on their shoulders to walk in the door, and see the maggots on the floor, and dirty diapers laying everywhere, and call DCFS to get those kids to a better place. Not a very healthy living environment.)
How these topics should NOT be mixed:
These two topics on their own raise questions whether anyone is a valued parent. As same-sex marriages go, I see no problems in this as I have plenty of gay friends (men and women) and they are just as normal, if not, more friendly and normal, than a heterosexual like myself.
But, to go onto your topic of whether homosextuals/lesbians should be able to adopt/create children themselves, Yes. I am a firm believer that if you are a responsible enough adult that you can love whoever you want, and if you can take care of a child, there is no issue why your sexuality should effect why you can or cannot take in a child.
Bit said:
Yes I do believe you are deeply judgmental and sexist as we'll as extremely prejudicial. Although I do believe one's right to their own life and if you aren't hurting anyone you aren't a very bad person. So I send you on your way, spawn of the universe.
the idea of people against homosexuality in general is like saying
this guy in front of me at subway didn't order the same sub as me which pisses me off, even though it generally won't affect me in any way
so no I don't care if the man who bought a different sub adopts a child
this guy in front of me at subway didn't order the same sub as me which pisses me off, even though it generally won't affect me in any way
so no I don't care if the man who bought a different sub adopts a child
Bit said:
Yes indeed. We are all biased in different areas. But the difference with you and me is,
When I'm being biased I merely observe the acts of individuals(you) and compare their stature to their character(you=shitty person).
Whereas you take probably around 5-10 bad experiences on your own behave that I'm guessing emotionally hurt you for some odd reason and focusing on the negative aspects and accusing billions of people for the few bad experiences you had as a little teenage boy.
Bit said:
Well from what I observe from you I merely had to infer of what you're situation was. And even if my factions of you of which I don't know since I know nothing about your life whatsoever I have to infer and even then it doesn't matter how many experiences you had. You could've had a million and still be unbelievably moronically biased with your accusations. And I'm not going to disclose any information about myself to you because that seems completely irrevelant to the debate as well as you're initial statement.
Kill said:
I'm sorry but it's really hard to take you seriously when you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're".
That's something you learn in like second grade.
You must be like 12.
A measure of one's intellect and their ability to show it is usually a good indicator of how strong their argument is.
More intellect = more credibility
Bit said:
One thing I really love is how every member's insult on this site is saying you're younger than them. And thank you for seeking a grammar mistake I made that literally changes nothing. I'm sorry it's difficult to never make a writing error in forever.
More intellect = More credibility
I'll be completely honest here, I don't approve of homosexuality. That is just my opinion and it is not going to change. I do, however, recognize that it is becoming more prevalent in the world each and every day and I respect homosexuals the same way that I respect anyone else.
Whether or not they should be able to adopt a kid or not is a very touchy subject because it could go either way. In one way, the kid is obviously going to be the target of bullies and harassment if his/her parents are gay. In the other way, gay people are humans and they should not be denied any right that is given to everyone else.
Personally, I think that the choice should be left up to the kid. I believe that it is NOT fair for a kid to be placed in a homosexual household without his/her consent. Like it or not, it is what it is. Would you want your kid to be bullied because of YOUR choices? You have to think about it from both sides of the argument. If the kid is ok with being treated differently his/her whole life, then go ahead and do it. If the homosexual couple is not fit to parent, however, then they shouldn't be allowed to adopt a kid.
It all boils down to the kid's personal preference and whether the homosexuals are ready to be parents or not.
Whether or not they should be able to adopt a kid or not is a very touchy subject because it could go either way. In one way, the kid is obviously going to be the target of bullies and harassment if his/her parents are gay. In the other way, gay people are humans and they should not be denied any right that is given to everyone else.
Personally, I think that the choice should be left up to the kid. I believe that it is NOT fair for a kid to be placed in a homosexual household without his/her consent. Like it or not, it is what it is. Would you want your kid to be bullied because of YOUR choices? You have to think about it from both sides of the argument. If the kid is ok with being treated differently his/her whole life, then go ahead and do it. If the homosexual couple is not fit to parent, however, then they shouldn't be allowed to adopt a kid.
It all boils down to the kid's personal preference and whether the homosexuals are ready to be parents or not.
Earl said:
And what about a child who is unable to know how to make that choice? Because only probably around 13+ would a kid be able to decide that decision and even then they might not actually know who homosexuals are. I respect your standpoint but gay parents or not I assume most children wouldn't turn away the opportunity of a childhood for cycling through orphanages and foster parents.
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