Plague said:Seriously, this thread is sort of sparked off by @"gucci"'s thread that he was banned for. FK is just getting more and more strict, and the staff is getting worse as time goes on.
We went from having scammers, corrupt, and just ignorant people on staff to power hungry people. @philly you seriously need to do something about this.
- Like the upgrades, if someone wants to fucking pay more than it's worth let them, it's none of your concern.
- As for vouch copies, staff doesn't deserve them anymore then a member that joined yesterday. I know most of the stupid shit staff does offsite, and I've met more trustworthy people that had neg rep.
- The post boosting in private subforums, if it is a paid section of FK and you don't own it then you have no fucking say what goes on there. It's none of your business what they do in their own section of the site. If you didn't pay for it then leave them alone.
- The word filters, seriously. Get the fuck over yourselves, when I say
and it appears as a goddamn rainbow it's common sense. And all terms as negro, that's fucking stupid. It's not like we are yelling white power and hanging people. We are simply talking to friends. Get rid of all that, someone takes offense to it yet I bet they say it as well.
- Choosing staff, I believe the FK community should be able to choose who becomes staff. Because most just abuse power and neglect their actual duties. I rarely see any staff member do their job well or help people.
- People's suggestions, I see some pretty damn good ones constatnly , but they never get implemented because 1 or 2 staff doesn't like it. Yet the whole damn site does. Then I see shit implemented that wasn't even told to us.
I agree with what @malwhere stated as well.
Yes, I do realize this will either be deleted, moved, or I will be banned. But it's worth it for the few people that actually do see it.
Tiger said:Plus 3 of my friends were scammed by staff 1 step down, other went inactive and 1 is currently staff.
True on the rep system. Not naming any people, but they got 1000 reputation in under 5 months. Nothing suspicious about that.Beware said:I am not one to hop on band wagons, but I agree with Plague. MOST of FK's staff is corrupt.
Another thing that I would like to mention, to the staff especially,
@Philly
@"Cann!bal"
@"GrƷƷd"
@Justice
@Leader
@Michael
@Narc
@"м¢ℓσνιη"
Let's be honest, you should just close sign up's for FK. 95% of all new members as of March 1st is a Multi accounter.
In my opinion, even though the forum team doesn't give a shit about members opinions, is that there should be another reset.
The rep system is COMPLETELY horrible.
Award 4 Award, like seriously? Awards are to be earned, not bought or traded.
Allow members to make public polls about what they want added to ForumKorner. This would make FK less dry.
Again, the forum team might not give a shit about my opinions, but whatever.
Inb4banned
Cann!bal said:2. I don't think you quite understand the rule. The rule does not dictate only staff may receive vouch copies, it dictates staff are the only ones who may ask for vouch copies. Anyone and everyone is eligible for receiving a vouch copy long as they meet the seller's qualifications, the seller simply has to offer. We implemented this rule to alleviate the problem of people constantly asking for vouch copies when none were being offered.
Beware said:I am not one to hop on band wagons, but I agree with Plague. MOST of FK's staff is corrupt.
Another thing that I would like to mention, to the staff especially,
@Philly
@"Cann!bal"
@"GrƷƷd"
@Justice
@Leader
@Michael
@Narc
@"м¢ℓσνιη"
Let's be honest, you should just close sign up's for FK. 95% of all new members as of March 1st is a Multi accounter.
In my opinion, even though the forum team doesn't give a shit about members opinions, is that there should be another reset.
The rep system is COMPLETELY horrible.
Award 4 Award, like seriously? Awards are to be earned, not bought or traded.
Allow members to make public polls about what they want added to ForumKorner. This would make FK less dry.
Again, the forum team might not give a shit about my opinions, but whatever.
Inb4banned
Plague said:Seriously, this thread is sort of sparked off by @"gucci"'s thread that he was banned for. FK is just getting more and more strict, and the staff is getting worse as time goes on.
We went from having scammers, corrupt, and just ignorant people on staff to power hungry people. @philly you seriously need to do something about this.
- Like the upgrades, if someone wants to fucking pay more than it's worth let them, it's none of your concern.
- As for vouch copies, staff doesn't deserve them anymore then a member that joined yesterday. I know most of the stupid shit staff does offsite, and I've met more trustworthy people that had neg rep.
- The post boosting in private subforums, if it is a paid section of FK and you don't own it then you have no fucking say what goes on there. It's none of your business what they do in their own section of the site. If you didn't pay for it then leave them alone.
- The word filters, seriously. Get the fuck over yourselves, when I say
and it appears as a goddamn rainbow it's common sense. And all terms as negro, that's fucking stupid. It's not like we are yelling white power and hanging people. We are simply talking to friends. Get rid of all that, someone takes offense to it yet I bet they say it as well.
- Choosing staff, I believe the FK community should be able to choose who becomes staff. Because most just abuse power and neglect their actual duties. I rarely see any staff member do their job well or help people.
- People's suggestions, I see some pretty damn good ones constatnly , but they never get implemented because 1 or 2 staff doesn't like it. Yet the whole damn site does. Then I see shit implemented that wasn't even told to us.
[/quote].Yes, I do realize this will either be deleted, moved, or I will be banned. But it's worth it for the few people that actually do see it.
Beware said:I am not one to hop on band wagons, but I agree with Plague. MOST of FK's staff is corrupt.
Another thing that I would like to mention, to the staff especially,
@Philly
@"Cann!bal"
@"GrƷƷd"
@Justice
@Leader
@Michael
@Narc
@"м¢ℓσνιη"
Let's be honest, you should just close sign up's for FK. 95% of all new members as of March 1st is a Multi accounter.
In my opinion, even though the forum team doesn't give a shit about members opinions, is that there should be another reset.
The rep system is COMPLETELY horrible.
Award 4 Award, like seriously? Awards are to be earned, not bought or traded.
Allow members to make public polls about what they want added to ForumKorner. This would make FK less dry.
Again, the forum team might not give a shit about my opinions, but whatever.
.Michael said:Let me start off by saying that Gucci's thread was aimed at us being abusive with our powers. I allowed his thread to be up because he had a right to express his views. Everyone was posting complete nonsense, so instead I moved it to the Spamming & Trolling section so I wouldn't have to warn or ban anyone. He then continued to disrespect me, the team, and Philly in a multitude of ways. That's what got him banned, not for posting a thread with his opinion about us. Anyone can do that. As for us getting more strict, I don't believe that's happening. We're enforcing the rules that we're told. We don't create any rules at all, it is solely up to Philly on why we should ban someone, warn someone, move a thread, remove a post, etc.
As for the "the staff is getting worse as time goes on." part, I cannot agree or disagree. I have only been here for 1 year and I haven't seen any corrupt staff members at all. When I joined it was the exact same Staff team which included Jason & Poe. Cann!bal was then added, then I was added, and Leader. I haven't experienced any of us being corrupt in any way possible. That would get us demoted INSTANTLY.
You have no idea how hard we are all working to keep FK in good standing behind the scenes. We try so hard and dedicate endless hours and sometimes no sleep at all to help members recover their accounts, take care of reports, think of new things we can implement, testing things, taking care of hundreds of reports daily, etc.
I agree. I don't really mind about upgrades, but once again it isn't our decision.
We don't receive every vouch copy for every eBook. We can only ask for vouch copies and receiving one and reviewing it would make the sales increase. Anyone is able to receive a vouch copy, just don't ask for one.
This could all be reversed if post count was not added in those forums, then we wouldn't have a problem. Sadly that won't happen. We are to moderate all forums, but Staff are not allowed into every group subforum. That is only for Philly! Post boosting will never be allowed in any forum on FK. (Besides S&T, since it doesn't count). We recently had to junk 3 threads containing 1,000 posts of complete bullshit. The user was spamming to win the FK Posting Contest.
A few of us are trying to get this removed.
That wouldn't work out. Philly chooses the Staff, and probably with some help from his team. By power abuse, do you mean take care of reports? If someone reports you for something, and we have to warn you, then don't complain and whine because you broke rules. All of us do our job well and help as many people as we can. It pisses me off that you say RARELY any Staff do their job. If you could do what we do for one day you'd understand how much we do. Don't assume by what you see.
We have SO many new plugins lined up, don't think we're not going to make some drastic changes and implement some new shit. The reason they get closed is because they've been suggested before and suggesting it a second time would result in closure.
Leader said:1. Agreed.
2. That's not true. The only members you can truly trust, if at all, are the staff team.
3. You haven't seen the post boosting we have seen. @Mac literally made a second account and then it would go like this:
4. Agreed.Mac: ds;ghsdfgjhfdslkgjhdz
2nd Account: lgfjdshfglksdfjhgklsdaj
Mac: ;lgjhflkdjgshsdfl
2nd Account: lkfhsadlko9a8htr89ghd
and so on.
5. No. If that were true, @Shift would become staff in a heartbeat.
6. Staff's opinion on knew pulgins should be held higher than that of a regular member's. However, staff normally doesn't even have a say in plugins implemented. It's all @"Philly"'s opinion that matters on whether or not it is implemented.
7. All staff view the pardon. If they don't vote, it's always a no. You can ask any staff member and they will tell you the same.
Acrocide said:2. Woah, woah, woah. This is 100% not true. Personally I would consider the current staff trustworthy, but back in 2011 when I joined I was scammed by staff user @"Uzi". This just proves that not all staff are trustworthy. You need to understand that it is based on the person not the position. @"Leader"
Looks like FK wants me to be the next staff, you know what to do Philly.Philly said:Closing this absolutely outrageous thread now. ROFL, appreciated the laugh though thanks.
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