The End is near. Revelation, Syria & Anti-Christ

Michael said:

Apologies, was to in to the moment for sourcing, will use for future reference. I have realized that you are speaking of unfulfilled prophecies. Explain to me factors which lead to them being fulfilled. Pascals wager is a valid & invalid argument.

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I previously said "Since these were prophecies of the bible, people congregated in attempt to fulfill them. If these prophecies weren't known, the fulfillment wouldn't have been a priority, hence the prophecy wouldn't have been fulfilled. "

No, Pascal's Wager is ridiculously invalid. It's extensively fallacious and holds no validity.

How does one implement something into the bible? When it comes to the authorship of the Bible, of course men were involved. Christians would point this out first. If Paul wrote letters to early churches that are includen in the Scriptures, David wrote many of the psalms. Moses wrote the Pentateuch, or the Torah. 40 different people were involved.

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They could have simply authored prophecies into the bible to boost its legitimacy perception.

I posted the prophecies stated above for the sole purpose of showing you that prophecies have been fulfilled. The fulfilment could take 1, 2, 3 thousand years but it will be fulfilled. I told you before about the ones that still need to take place. I want you to watch out for them because it will be in the near future.

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Blatantly. However, I simply stated how my thesis correlated with the prophecies perfectly. They were broad, indirect and boundward. They will probably happen eventually, because they're so broad and boundward. If the prophecy was something distinctly significant, then the case of Christianity could be considered, however, the prophecies made in the bible, again, essentially all fit under the categorization of broad, indirect or boundward. The prophecies are insignificant.

I want to move off of prophecies and tell you this. Our Earth, our size is perfect, the right distance to the sun, if we were just a tad bit smaller life wouldn't be able exist. Our moon is the perfect distance, why is this? Did the big bang create Earth to be in the only position in which it can sustain life?

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We fortunately live within the Goldie Lox zone, which is the exemplary habitat for life, however, the argument of fine tuning is flawed. Our galaxy -- the Milky Way galaxy -- is in the midst of a straight collision with the Andromeda galaxy. How is that fine tuned? The ability that we are able to sustain life isn't very significant when in comparison of the mathematical probability for life somewhere else.

The big bang had no pre-determination of its outcome. The Earth came to be without any conscious intervention.

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QWhepc7P6g[/video]

What do you all think of this?

Cann!bal gives out answers from what we see and experience here in earth but can't answer our origin.

Come on guys share your thought here! Don't be afraid to voice your opinion.

Executioner said:

Cann!bal gives out answers from what we see and experience here in earth but can't answer our origin.

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I was never even asked that question, so you're in no state to declare that. Especially since you can't even answer the exact question you propose with validity.

The Big Bang is the prevailing cosmological model and scientific theory in regards of the origin of our Universe and early development of the Universe. The singularity of our Universe occurred 13.7 billion years ago when an infinitesimally atomic, and torrid iota of mass burst, and within a trillionth-trillionth of a second the Universe began to expand at incomprehensible speeds. It's theorized that the Universe was so initially torrid that not even elementary particles such as protons and neutrons could not even exist yet. Instead, the different types of matter (matter and anti-matter) collided, creating what is known as pure energy. Momentarily after the Big Bang, the elementary elements (protons, neutrons, and electrons) began to form. Gradually, the most simplistic elements of the periodic table arose; that being hydrogen, H and helium, He and so on the genesis of our Universe went. Within the timeframe ranging from the Big Bang to the present day, all the products of the cosmic phenomenon arose. The stars; the planets; the galaxies; everything you love and hold dear came to be the product of our Universe's genesis; that being the cosmic phenomenon known as the singularity -- the Big Bang.

Cann!bal said:

I was never even asked that question, so you're in no state to declare that. Especially since you can't even answer the exact question you propose with validity.

The Big Bang is the prevailing cosmological model and scientific theory in regards of the origin of our Universe and early development of the Universe. The singularity of our Universe occurred 13.7 billion years ago when an infinitesimally atomic, and torrid iota of mass burst, and within a trillionth-trillionth of a second the Universe began to expand at incomprehensible speeds. It's theorized that the Universe was so initially torrid that not even elementary particles such as protons and neutrons could not even exist yet. Instead, the different types of matter (matter and anti-matter) collided, creating what is known as pure energy. Momentarily after the Big Bang, the elementary elements (protons, neutrons, and electrons) began to form. Gradually, the most simplistic elements of the periodic table arose; that being hydrogen, H and helium, He and so on the genesis of our Universe went. Within the timeframe ranging from the Big Bang to the present day, all the products of the cosmic phenomenon arose. The stars; the planets; the galaxies; everything you love and hold dear came to be the product of our Universe's genesis; that being the cosmic phenomenon known as the singularity -- the Big Bang.

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And you just explained how the big bang theory was theorized by scientists, but if we put it in a way that it did happen, how did the string of that torrid iota existence to evolve into something spectacular.


Also, list down why I shouldn't believe in God.

Do some people get off hating on religion/atheism? Like what the fuck, why so many arguments about religion?

Damnation said:

Do some people get off hating on religion/atheism? Like what the fuck, why so many arguments about religion?

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I dont have much to contribute to this thread, Cannibal is much more knowledgeable in the scientific aspect of things, and more patient. But I was just cruising along reading stuff and I may be able to answer your question. Since our origin is still so controversial on all levels and everyone has their own beliefs, I think some people like to put their belief to the test, in hopes of furthering that belief, or just hearing someone elses perspective in hopes of learning something new. There are also others who have somewhat of an agenda, who are pretty firm in what they believe and want to inform and convert others onto "their side." I personally love a good debate no matter what it is about. I like sharing my knowledge, and debunking and trading ideas with other people of opposing beliefs. Its like excercise for you brain.

Damnation said:

Do some people get off hating on religion/atheism? Like what the fuck, why so many arguments about religion?

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Debating is one of my passions, considering I'm on the debate team at school. I never back down from a good argument, and I'll usually be able to come out of the debate more knowledgeable than when I entered it. Religion just happens to be one of my most knowledgeable subjects, when it comes to debating.

Executioner said:

And you just explained how the big bang theory was theorized by scientists, but if we put it in a way that it did happen, how did the string of that torrid iota existence to evolve into something spectacular.

Also, list down why I shouldn't believe in God.

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You're making an equivocation fallacy. A scientific theory and a theory differ greatly. A scientific theory is brushed aside if there is any flaw in it, unlike the theory of a god which is incredibly fallacious. That's simply how quantum physics works at such an incomprehensibly atomic level.

Beforehand, I would like to exclaim that the burden of proof is not upon me, for I am not the claimant, rather the rejector of the god claim due to lack of valid evidence. However, I coincidentally did create a thread for that exact subject, which can be found here.

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Damnation said:

Do some people get off hating on religion/atheism? Like what the fuck, why so many arguments about religion?

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I don't necessarily hate the concept of religion, more so what it does to people. Religion is an important topic to debate for it can dictate your thought process, your beliefs, your only life; to not question and discuss it through argument would be absolutely ridiculous and with the amount of people who are indoctrinated, it's prone to be discussed a lot.

I see this thread is getting a good amount of replies, I am pleased! Not long till we find out who is right.

Michael said:

I see this thread is getting a good amount of replies, I am pleased! Not long till we find out who is right.

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This is a prime example of why I hate religion and how it can dictate your thought process, beliefs; your life. It turns the matter of mass-genocide and billions of deaths into a laughing matter. Truly sickening and sorrowful.

Cann!bal said:

This is a prime example of why I hate religion and how it can dictate your thought process, beliefs; your life. It turns the matter of mass-genocide and billions of deaths into a laughing matter. Truly sickening and sorrowful.

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I also do not like religion but I'm not sure if you're saying that the above statement is about me or not?

Michael said:

I also do not like religion but I'm not sure if you're saying that the above statement is about me or not?

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It's directed at the subject of what religious beliefs do to people.

Cann!bal said:

It's directed at the subject of what religious beliefs do to people.

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Now this is something that we can both finally agree on!

Michael said:

Now this is something that we can both finally agree on!

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You seemingly don't understand my manifestation. To agree with me on this is to extensively contradict yourself.

Cann!bal said:

You seemingly don't understand my manifestation. To agree with me on this is to extensively contradict yourself.

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I don't like the idea of religion, Cann!bal. Religion kills people.. Literally. No one deserves their life taken off them. I stil ofcourse believe in God, and as I said before Jesus Christ is my saviour, not my religion.

Michael said:

I don't like the idea of religion, Cann!bal. Religion kills people.. Literally. No one deserves their life taken off them. I stil ofcourse believe in God, and as I said before Jesus Christ is my saviour, not my religion.

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I was claiming that I despise what religion does to people, not that I despise the concept. You have been indoctrinated into believing that the matter of mass-genocide is a laughing matter within this context, hence to agree with me is to extensively contradict yourself.

To cherry pick only the concepts you favor and ignore all the adversities from religion, including the label of religion itself is an error. You must factor everything. To claim Jesus Christ is your savior and not your religion is ridiculous.

Cann!bal said:

I was claiming that I despise what religion does to people, not that I despise the concept. You have been indoctrinated into believing that the matter of mass-genocide is a laughing matter within this context, hence to agree with me is to extensively contradict yourself.

To cherry pick only the concepts you favor and ignore all the adversities from religion, including the label of religion itself is an error. You must factor everything. To claim Jesus Christ is your savior and not your religion is ridiculous.

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That is the way I feel, I don't think you are getting what I am saying. Needless to say, there are so many religions & not just Christianity. I do feel religion is not a good thing, religion kills people & we both know that. I would like you to watch this video:

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY[/video]

Michael said:

That is the way I feel, I don't think you are getting what I am saying. Needless to say, there are so many religions & not just Christianity. I do feel religion is not a good thing, religion kills people & we both know that. I would like you to watch this video:

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY[/video]

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That video is absolute malarkey. It makes little to no sense.