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Cann!bal

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Michaelll said:
To answer your question: "If there is a god and he did create everything what being or force created him?", he was there since the beginning, there is no time with God, there is no ending, God was and has always been there. I guess we have to wait and see hey :)

That's an argument from ignorance fallacy and a cop out. In this fallacy, you're appealing to ignorance by making a claim that can't be proven or disproved. You're applying an unfalsifiable attribute to a unfalsifiable concept.
 

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Cann!bal said:
That's an argument from ignorance fallacy and a cop out. In this fallacy, you're appealing to ignorance by making a claim that can't be proven or disproved. You're applying an unfalsifiable attribute to a unfalsifiable concept.

Apologies if it came out that way, I was stating it in a way for the question to be answered without like forcing religion down his throat. Like I said before, we have to wait & see. May I ask, what do YOU personally believes happen when we die, extremely curious!
 

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Michaelll said:
Yeah, I completely understand where you are coming from mate. I do believe there is a higher power, and that higher power is God. There are also so many religions out there and it's hard sticking to one when there are others but we're all going to die soon & find out the truth. :)

We will all find out what is what one day, but my opinion will never be swayed. Just too many unrealistic things are said and done when it comes to any religion. Most things have changed over the years anyway.
 

Cann!bal

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Michaelll said:
Apologies if it came out that way, I was stating it in a way for the question to be answered without like forcing religion down his throat. Like I said before, we have to wait & see. May I ask, what do YOU personally believes happen when we die, extremely curious!

You don't have to apologize. You didn't shove religion down his throat, you gave him a theistic perspective (theism isn't a religion), of what you thought. We won't be seeing anything, we'll be deceased. We experience what post-death is like everyday when we're asleep.
 

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Cann!bal said:
You don't have to apologize. You didn't shove religion down his throat, you gave him a theistic perspective (theism isn't a religion), of what you thought. We won't be seeing anything, we'll be deceased. We experience what post-death is like everyday when we're asleep.

So you're saying when we're dead it'll just be darkness, with no control over our bodies FOREVER?
 

Plague

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Cann!bal said:
You don't have to apologize. You didn't shove religion down his throat, you gave him a theistic perspective (theism isn't a religion), of what you thought. We won't be seeing anything, we'll be deceased. We experience what post-death is like everyday when we're asleep.

Hello Cann!bal, I know we don't necessarily speak or anything like that but I would really like to know what your view on our existence is what is the purpose for everyone having so suffer or others to project so far ahead of everyone and still look for more material gain.

I am always looking for more people to actually have an in depth conversation with since I left Void and HF entirely.
 

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Cann!bal said:
Yeah, forever. You present it as if that's irrational of me to say. What were you expecting me to say?

I expected you to say like we float around as ghosts or something, I never that would be an option to be completely honest.
 

Cann!bal

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Plague said:
Hello Cann!bal, I know we don't necessarily speak or anything like that but I would really like to know what your view on our existence is what is the purpose for everyone having so suffer or others to project so far ahead of everyone and still look for more material gain.

I am always looking for more people to actually have an in depth conversation with since I left Void and HF entirely.

Could you elaborate that more clearly please? Are you asking what is the purpose of our existence? EDIT: Private message me, since this is off-topic.

Michaelll said:
I expected you to say like we float around as ghosts or something, I never that would be an option to be completely honest.

I don't believe in any supernatural concepts.
 

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Cann!bal said:
Could you elaborate that more clearly please? Are you asking what is the purpose of our existence?


I don't believe in any supernatural concepts.

What is the point of such an existence that would put many people far ahead while more unfortunate people have to suffer? It's more based around the concepts of peoples own material fantasies than existence.
 

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Michaelll said:
Watch a live exorcism, then tell me what you think. You can always see one with your own eyes, go to the church & ask a priest. Tell me what you think, go right now and search for live exorcisms. Let's see how many of you think this is fake.

I believe in Jesus Christ, I've been raised in a Catholic home since birth. Yeah I smoke weed though but in the bible it talks about Jesus and his disciples smoking hemp... SO if Jesus did it then I'm going to follow his word and smoke weed. LOL I know that last part had nothing to do with anything, but oh well. I'm glad there is another spiritual person on this forum. See you around.
 

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These "exorcisms" are just a bunch of shit. The people want to believe in God so badly that they pretend to actually have something wrong with them. its almost like your a doctor. As a doctor you can never really tell how much pain your patient is in. So how are we able to know that these are real? We can't just take the persons word (The person who is having the exorcism who is saying that this is all 100% real). Religion was man made. It is a disgusting thing to be honest. It has claimed many lives and also ruined countries.
 

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First of all, atheism is solely not believing that a god/deity/higher power exists. It does not mean you believe in evolution or that you do not believe in an afterlife. Too many labels become attached to things, and popular belief does not redefine what an athest is at the core.

That being said, for those having trouble grasping the conept of "darkness" after death. This may help you understand, and maybe even accept that "nothingness" is logical and probable, considering what we factually know as human beings.

Before you were born (before your organs functioned, your immune system was intact & blood coarsed through your veins etc.) you didnt see anything. You didnt see darkness, you had no consciousness, no memory, emotion, choice or anything. When you physically die, those same vital organs that allowed you to be alive cease to function. Just like before you were born. The two can be related in the example I just gave, therfor the pre-life stage can be assumed to be the same as the post-life stage.

Now I know that there are miraculous things in this world. I know everything is so fucked up, yet so perfect. I cannot explain why we exist, and what the purpose is. But for what I cannot explain, I cannot assume. Therfore ONE theory on death I have is what I explained above. Im not claiming it to be correct, just the most logical possibility I can come up with.

God, spirts, souls, afterlife is all speculation. Speculating is fine, obsessing and commiting to something as important yet unanswerable as death BASED upon those speculations is what I have a problem with. There is only one way that I know of to find out for sure, and that is death itself. I hate to settle for "darkness" at the end of my life, but I have to be fair to myself.

Hope this helps.
 

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not being immature or anything, but personally

exorcisms make me fucking laugh
 

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An Exorcism honestly doesn't prove anything.
And I do believe in both God and Science.
 
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