I've read enough of your posts to know there's no point arguing with you. Killing animals for food is alright in my book. If you don't think so, cool. I don't think I can stress enough how little I care. By the way, I only just remembered that you neg-repped me a while back, so now that I am Power, i thought I'd update it. Feel free to remove yours any time you'd like.Cann!bal said:
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Veganism Is A Moral Baseline For Being A Decent Human Being
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Don't run away and be a pansy. It's not productive or intellectually honest to dismiss ideas on the basis you don't want to take responsibility and change or believe them.JohnnyG said:
How do you justify needlessly harming others and destroying the planet? Do you think you are void of any moral responsibility to not harm others and transition to a sustainable model? Do you feel guilty when you try to rationalize needless murder and destruction? I really would like to know. You haven't given me anything so far besides repeat yourself and say it's okay to needlessly harm others and spew gibberish about how we kill for survival in the first world. Just tell me, mate.
We don't kill for survival anymore. We kill for pleasure. It's completely unnecessary now. You believe needlessly harming others is wrong, right?Devil said:
I doubt you would say the circle of life makes it okay for me to kill my cat so I can eat him for pleasure.
Cann!bal said:
Before you call out flaws in everyone's arguments, fix the flaws in yours. I can promise from reading some of your posts, you'll have your work set out for you. There's plenty. And I'm not just talking about this thread. Maybe that's expecting too much from a dumb-ass 17 year old highschool dropout that thinks he has the world figured out.
tl;dr killing animals for food is okay even when it's not solely for survival in my opinion. don't agree? ask me if i care.
i think i've wasted enough time on this subject. peace m8
JohnnyG said:Before you call out flaws in everyone's arguments, fix the flaws in yours. I can promise from reading some of your posts, you'll have your work set out for you. There's plenty. And I'm not just talking about this thread. Maybe that's expecting too much from a dumb-ass 17 year old highschool dropout that thinks he has the world figured out.
How are you confident enough to post that and not feel dumb? You're a total fucking pansy idiot. All you got are personal attacks, which I don't mind, but you have absolutely no argument and are too pussy to address mine.
Point the flaws out then, smartass. I obviously don't see them since I'm just a stupid teenage drop out who thinks he knows everything. Obviously the internet forum troll has got his shit straight.
I'm sorry the site went down when I was replying, you try way to hard to shove your message down someone's throat, you make them try to feel bad and shit, I mean nothing you say can stop me or anyone who eats meat, shit imma about to eat meat right now :3
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do decent human beings insult everyone that doesn't share the same opinion as them?
just wanted to say you're a retard and u lost the argumentJohnnyG said:Before you call out flaws in everyone's arguments, fix the flaws in yours. I can promise from reading some of your posts, you'll have your work set out for you. There's plenty. And I'm not just talking about this thread. Maybe that's expecting too much from a dumb-ass 17 year old highschool dropout that thinks he has the world figured out.
tl;dr killing animals for food is okay even when it's not solely for survival in my opinion. don't agree? ask me if i care.
i think i've wasted enough time on this subject. peace m8
im going to continue eating hamburgers though im sorry
Ambien said:
You clicked here on your own accord and tried talking with me on a thread in the Philosophy & Debates section. Don't give me this nonsense about how I'm shoving my beliefs down your throat. That's the dumbest shit in the world. I'm not forcing anything on you.
When someone does something awful and they don't recognize it shouldn't someone be trying to show them what they're doing is wrong? White slave owners sure thought it was okay to treat black people however they want. You should feel bad. You pay people to torture and murder animals and destroy the planet, and you're also destroying your health in the process. I mean I don't blame you - I used to be part of it. It's just that I recognized I was wrong and realigned my beliefs of empathy and compassion for the animals and the planet with my actions. Do your own research and go in with an open mind along with a willingness to change if you're wrong and there's no way you'll look at the world the same.
Cred said:
My mom wasn't vegan for the first month before I convinced her. Watch Cowspiracy, Earthlings and Forks Over Knives with them and let them know you want their support. It's not like they're going to let you starve to death if you refuse.
Jason said:
Why would the presence of canine teeth justify needlessly harming animals for the enjoyment of eating their bodies? We can eat plants instead, so we are under no obligation to murder someone. And when you put the "canines tho" argument under scrutiny, you would see there are herbivorous animals with far bigger canines than us, like primates, rhinos and hippos. Our canines are only named canines because of their position and biological classification in our jaw and they are nothing close to the canines of actual carnivores and omnivores. They are useless when it comes down to eating like actual omnivores do.
meow░w░w▒w▒w▓w▓ said:
I insulted because he insulted me first. I'm not going to stick my ass in the air and let it get fucked. I was being very kind and patient beforehand. He's just an asshole.
Do you think it's okay to needlessly harm others and destroy the environment?
Jason said:
Abolitionist vegans don't believe in breeding domesticated animals, exploiting animals or treating animals as things.
Yeah, good point, Jason. We should just go on mass-murder rampages, too. Less greenhouse emissions, amiright?
Our current transportation system is necessary in this mechanized world (and we are moving to a more green and environmentally-friendly system). If you have a moral dilemma with producing any emissions then go right ahead and live with the Amish. I don't particularly mind. I for one know that's counter-productive for the cause and I wouldn't have turned dozens and dozens of people vegan if I did some stupid shit like that the first time I heard this argument.
Voices said:
Animal agriculture is destroying the planet and cannot be sustained and it is responsible for needless suffering and death of 150,000,000,000 animals each year. That's kind of fucked up isn't it?
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Look at the spoiler, please.
All your posts consist of you trying to enforce something on someone, for example when you came out as "bi" then you started saying other niggas were "bi" now you say your vegan then try to enforce your message onto people who eat meat, like oh you shouldn't eat meat it's bad for the planet, you're not going to change anyone lmfao.
Ambien said:
How can you be so dumb? You came here on your own your own accord, dumbass. How can I possibly force anything on you? This is the Philosophy & Debates where you entertain each others arguments. What you think "forcing your beliefs" means is the purpose of this section.
Like I already mentioned, I've helped dozens and dozens of people go vegan. If you want the future to remember you as just another mindless moron who didn't realize needlessly murdering others and destroying the planet is wrong then I guess I can't stop you. If you would open your mind and listen that wouldn't have to be the case.
Nigga, you aren't even debating the topic. You're whining about how I'm shoving shit down your throat even though you're coming her on your own accord. You make no sense.Ambien said:
There's no getting to you. You clearly have your mind set and aren't willing to change. Go jerk off or something. You're wasting your time.
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