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Thats what happens when you completely destroy a country, and than put them in a massive, unpayable debt. It really is the Allies faults that Hitler rose to power. (Not implying what he did was right)
 

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Thats what happens when you completely destroy a country, and than put them in a massive, unpayable debt. It really is the Allies faults that Hitler rose to power. (Not implying what he did was right)

Lol @ this post.

Read this.

"Hitler's rise to power was based upon long-term factors - resentment in the German people, the weakness of the Weimar system - which he exploited through propaganda (paid for by his rich, Communist-fearing backers), the terror of his stormtroopers, and the brilliance of his speeches.
During the 'roaring twenties' Germans ignored this vicious little man with his programme of hatred. But when the Great Depression ruined their lives, they voted for him in increasing numbers. Needing support, and thinking he could control Hitler, President Hindenburg made the mistake in January 1933 of giving Hitler the post of Chancellor. "

http://www.johndclare.net/Weimar7.htm
 

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Pesterd said:
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Thats what happens when you completely destroy a country, and than put them in a massive, unpayable debt. It really is the Allies faults that Hitler rose to power. (Not implying what he did was right)

Lol @ this post.

Read this.

"But when the Great Depression ruined their lives, they voted for him in increasing numbers. Needing support, and thinking he could control Hitler, President Hindenburg made the mistake in January 1933 of giving Hitler the post of Chancellor. "

http://www.johndclare.net/Weimar7.htm

Did you not read your own post idiot? That's exactly what im saying.
 

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If you think the German People voted for Hitler specifically because of the Great Depression and an "unpayable" debt, than you are wrong on many accounts.

He rose to power through other means and the people voted for him due to many other factors, which may also have included the financial aspect. However, the financial aspect of the depression had little to do with Hitler's rise.
 

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Leaders like that only rise up when a country is in chaos, exactly like Germany was post WWI. Just like in Russia, There was a civil war and the Soviet Union rose to power. Just like in Cuba there was a Revolution, the government was overthrown and destroyed, and in came the communist fascist.

If we had not completely destroyed Germany, and stuck them with all the blame and debt of the war, Hitler would have NEVER risen to power. Why do you think we didn't do that after WWII? We realised another fascist leader would rise to power if we did.
 

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Leaders like that only rise up when a country is in chaos, exactly like Germany was post WWI. Just like in Russia, There was a civil war and the Soviet Union rose to power. Just like in Cuba there was a Revolution, the government was overthrown and destroyed, and in came the communist fascist.

If we had not completely destroyed Germany, and stuck them with all the blame and debt of the war, Hitler would have NEVER risen to power. Why do you think we didn't do that after WWII? We realised another fascist leader would rise to power if we did.

I agree, someone with similar ideas can only rise up when a country is in complete chaos, but I disagree with the part where you say that it was 'our' fault. WWI was completely germany's fault, there's no one else to blame. We did the right thing, and it took them down.

Hitler was an ingnorant and bitter little man who thought he could play god. We all know what happened to him.
 

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Leaders like that only rise up when a country is in chaos, exactly like Germany was post WWI. Just like in Russia, There was a civil war and the Soviet Union rose to power. Just like in Cuba there was a Revolution, the government was overthrown and destroyed, and in came the communist fascist.

If we had not completely destroyed Germany, and stuck them with all the blame and debt of the war, Hitler would have NEVER risen to power. Why do you think we didn't do that after WWII? We realised another fascist leader would rise to power if we did.

I agree, someone with similar ideas can only rise up when a country is in complete chaos, but I disagree with the part where you say that it was 'our' fault. WWI was completely germany's fault, there's no one else to blame. We did the right thing, and it took them down.

Hitler was an ingnorant and bitter little man who thought he could play god. We all know what happened to him.
How was it Germany's fault. Black arm gang (Serbian) started the war.
 

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They picked the wrong side and attacked Belgium, France, and Luxembourg.
 

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I agree with a lot of the person values that Fascism promotes, and I agree with what Hitler was trying to do. (Regarding world domination, not the supposed mass genocide of the Jewish people.) I tend to stray away from using the Holocaust as a judgement factor because I don't really have an opinion on it. Horrible things will happen, but the world will move on. I'd rather judge people on their intentions, because that is what will have an eternal effect on our lives. We say that the Holocaust does affect us, but in reality it doesn't.
The way you judge people is obviously flawed. I intended to NOT scam but ended up Scamming billions.

Oh I guess that makes me a good person now doesnt it?
The holocaust does effect every aspect of human life today. In the Jewish religion, in the Christian religion, in Germany, in the United States, in Israel, it has an effect on everything.

If there was no holocaust there may not have been a state of Israel, with no State of Israel there would be no Arab-Israeli conflict today.

Try and get your facts straight before posting stupidity.

Do you not read at all?
Because apparently you don't.

I said I agreed with Hitler's attempt at world domination, but not the holocaust. Not once did I say that the holocaust was good. Not once did I say that Hitler was a good person. Not once did I say that the holocaust was a good thing in our world's past.

Try and get your facts straight before posting stupidity.
 

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Nyx said:
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Leaders like that only rise up when a country is in chaos, exactly like Germany was post WWI. Just like in Russia, There was a civil war and the Soviet Union rose to power. Just like in Cuba there was a Revolution, the government was overthrown and destroyed, and in came the communist fascist.

If we had not completely destroyed Germany, and stuck them with all the blame and debt of the war, Hitler would have NEVER risen to power. Why do you think we didn't do that after WWII? We realised another fascist leader would rise to power if we did.

I agree, someone with similar ideas can only rise up when a country is in complete chaos, but I disagree with the part where you say that it was 'our' fault. WWI was completely germany's fault, there's no one else to blame. We did the right thing, and it took them down.

Hitler was an ingnorant and bitter little man who thought he could play god. We all know what happened to him.

I'm saying the fact that Hitler rose to power was almost entirely the allies faults. Why do you think we didn't do the same thing to them after we beat them in WWII? Because we knew another tyrannic leader was going to rise from it and we knew it was our faults that even happened. Obivously we didn't know that was going to happen and there is no way we could have really, but it did.
 

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The original ss was a force to be reckoned with, when the were only an elite few protecting hitler. Now not saying what hitler did was ok but he was a great leader
 

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Disapprove of their ideals and actions. Especially being that they followed a leader who was comprised of much of what they hated.
 
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