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Daimi

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J-jesus christ I woulda thought you'd have more common sense than to recommend an FX-8350 build.

The i7 is better in every way except in cost. It's faster, more efficient and wins in virtually every every test.

The architectures are different. Intel processors are stronger in single threaded applications which pretty much dominate the gaming area. As previously said, there are very few games that actually use more than 4 cores and even then, there's negligible difference between an i5 and the 8350.

AMD processors are strong in Multi-threaded applications or core intense applications. Many people buy an 8 core CPU for video editing which do better compared to an i5 but not an i7.

There's also no upgrade path or new generation CPUs from AMD AM3+ line.

There are two ways to shut the fanboy up, ask him to post credible sources of gaming benchmarks. Youtube videos are not credible sources. They are garbage and never tell the whole story. AnandTech, Tom's, Guru, HardOCP, TechSpot.

Let me elaborate more if I didn't come across clear.

i7 4790k is built on a 22nm manufacturing process while the 8350 is built on a 32nm process, the i7 manufacturing is so much newer giving you a more powerful, yet cooler processor, and no more GHz doesn't mean its a better CPU...... Also, it has a 2.2x lower power consumption. Next, it has 2x more l3 cache per core, meaning since the i7 has four cores, it has the same l3 cache. Shit, it even got a 2x better score on the C4D benchmark which is ALL cpu. Need I go further why the FX-8350 is a poor choice?
 

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No man the 300s are a gimmick they are practically the same cards 



Get a 290 or 290x like @astro said and youll be saving money


And @kowai im with you lol. How could somebody recommend a budget cpu in a 2k build? XD the intel cpus have WAY better architecture and better performance per core which no amd cpu can come close to

Also @beam i strongly suggest to stay away from watercooling.
 

Daimi

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I prefer water cooling because its sexy and obviously cooler. Why are you against him getting it?
 

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Kowai said:
I prefer water cooling because its sexy and obviously cooler. Why are you against him getting it?
I prefer it too but since it's his first build i just suggest getting air cooling due to the reliability and easy maintenance  i.e. With the watercooling leaks and such. I know air cooling is significantly louder but honestly for his first build who cares? If he gets a good case it should muffle the noises.
 

Daimi

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B-but kraken is easy to install, and the bitch never leaked on me b4 ;-;

u make kraken cri
 

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That's every reason why I don't choose AMD for a processor.
The Devil's Canyon is simply THE processor for gamers at this current time. I'm interested to see how much better Skylake will be for gaming, but knowing Intel I doubt it'd be a lot.
 

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@Kowai 's build seems pretty legit, though I'd personally buy two 128gb ssds and set them up with RAID 0 for even better performance.



he can just get a water cooler only for his CPU then, leaking is pretty rare.
 

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Circuit said:
@Kowai 's build seems pretty legit, though I'd personally buy two 128gb ssds and set them up with RAID 0 for even better performance.



he can just get a water cooler only for his CPU then, leaking is pretty rare.



Yeah but if one of those SSDs fail, you are up shits creek without a paddle.
 

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Kowai said:
Yeah but if one of those SSDs fail, you are up shits creek without a paddle.
they dont usually fail though right? Or he can do raid 1 for added protection
 

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Kowai said:
Well I mean its possible..... But either way if an SSD fails any data recovery possibility is gone. Usually why I put my important stuff on mechanicals.

I thought mechanical drives were more prone to failure?
 

Daimi

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Circuit said:
I thought mechanical drives were more prone to failure?

Well they are, but if they do fail data recovery is very much possible.

Such as

Replace the Drive's Controller Board
Using Linux to Recover the Data
Photorec

As for SSDs recovering lost data from solid-state drives is possible, the process can be time-consuming and therefore expensive. With SSDs, almost every drive has a different structure and different technology, while mechanical hard drives are rather simple because hell, its just rotating disks. Also, most consumer grade methods won't recover files from dead SSDs, most of the time its off to the manufacturer who will normally charge the price of a new drive to get your data off it.