Cann!bal said:
I cant provide evidence since it is my own personal experience, so therefore I proven it to myself.
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I cant provide evidence since it is my own personal experience, so therefore I proven it to myself.
Cann!bal said:
You cant tell someone that his 'personal evidence' is invalid if he/she has proven it to him/her self, not everything in this world has a certain pattern to be followed, its you who detoriate yourself from disbelieving on a creator, so more on you 're trying to belive in 'science' which supposedly was created by someone else... you just cant say that Albert Einstein or Nikola Tesla made the universe in fact Nikola Tesla,Galileo Galilei, Rene Descartes, Isaac Newton , Albert Einstein, did belive in God and likewised associated God with their understandings in life.
Executioner said:
You blatantly did not view my quote I gave you on personal evidence. I hate your usage of the word disbelief, since it implies proof has been provided and that I am in denial, which is not the case, the contrary in a way. Science was a method created by humans, that's a blatant fact, it's not supposed. I never exclaimed the universe was created by Albert Einstein or Niklo Telsa, silly. Albert Einstein was a different case, he believed in a personal god, which were essentially the laws of physics of the universe. As for the others, they were brilliant, however, primitive and ignorant men, nor do they in anyway boost the significance of god or religion. Plus, 93% of elite scientists today do not believe in a god. If you're going continue to spew repetitive arguments which I have already refuted, I suggest stopping.
Personally i dont believe in a god cause i choose not to be anyones bitch. But when im classified as an atheist that pisses me off because it sounds like there is a god but i just dont believe in it which when people say they are atheists they are inferring there is a god but they just dont believe in him. I dont believe there is a god and i wish not to be classified as an atheist. The whole religion thing just pisses me off.
Leader said:
Atheism is the rejection of a god, not the rejection of a religion. Buddhists don't believe in a god, so they're therefore atheists, however, they are still religious and belong to a religion.
I agree with Mischief on how the atheist label is silly. When I wake in the morning, I don't contemplate myself as being a non-astronomer, non-physicist, non-cosmetologist, so why should there be even be a label for a non-theist? It's pretty silly.
When you see a physical being of god. And or proof he/she exist. Let me know.
God would not let this amount of pain and suffering in the world if he/she were real. I'm not trying to say shit like "you're stupid if you believe in god" Cause I know that i what someone will get out of this.
Life is shit for most people, and the biggest believers in the name of God. Now why would God go ahead and toy with their life? Why would god sit there, knowing of the pain and suffering that that one believer is going through, and let him sit in a shitty life. I think if god were as majestic and all knowing / all seeing and quote on quote, "nice". He/she would help that person.
The image of god is portrayed as a being which knows all, yet tragedies like; the holocaust, 9/11, disease, poverty, HUGE wars, bombings, and more. If god could see it all, has the ability to prevent it, has the ability to send signs to believers. Why not do it? He/she would make the people, the creations, the world, in all generalization, life. So much better. Yet he/she doesn't do it why?
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That is my belief on god. So much he/she could do and prevent. So much he/she could help with. Nobody in the WORLD has been able to convince me to see that proof of god has been given to the world. I'm an atheist. I always will be. I'm not going AGAINST what you say in any way. I'm giving my view of how I don't see existence of such a super-being is made.
God would not let this amount of pain and suffering in the world if he/she were real. I'm not trying to say shit like "you're stupid if you believe in god" Cause I know that i what someone will get out of this.
Life is shit for most people, and the biggest believers in the name of God. Now why would God go ahead and toy with their life? Why would god sit there, knowing of the pain and suffering that that one believer is going through, and let him sit in a shitty life. I think if god were as majestic and all knowing / all seeing and quote on quote, "nice". He/she would help that person.
The image of god is portrayed as a being which knows all, yet tragedies like; the holocaust, 9/11, disease, poverty, HUGE wars, bombings, and more. If god could see it all, has the ability to prevent it, has the ability to send signs to believers. Why not do it? He/she would make the people, the creations, the world, in all generalization, life. So much better. Yet he/she doesn't do it why?
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That is my belief on god. So much he/she could do and prevent. So much he/she could help with. Nobody in the WORLD has been able to convince me to see that proof of god has been given to the world. I'm an atheist. I always will be. I'm not going AGAINST what you say in any way. I'm giving my view of how I don't see existence of such a super-being is made.
Godly said:
The point you are trying to make is valid. My answer to you is that divine intervention does not exist. Thats why these things happen, not necessarily that god doesnt exist.
Also, consider this. The universe is extremely vast. Do the research yourself. We on Earth are but a grain of salt. I find it silly and arrogant that people consider us relevant enough for god to dictate and tend to. Anybody with common sense will tell you that certainly there is other life in the universe, intelligent or not. Why would god not make mention of what he did with 99.9999999% of the universe? Why would he create such a universe that has so much potential to house so many other forms of life, a universe that is constantly expanding. Certainly god wouldnt just throw single random planet in there and do nothing with the rest of the universe. What makes us special? Nothing. I can confidently dismiss a god specific to us here on Earth based off of that simple knowledge. Its ridiculous.
Godly said:
Most of the bad things that happen because God gives us a choice of free will. We are free people, we are not puppets. God does not cause bad things to happen, he loves us and grieves with us in our pain when these bad things occur.
The bible shows a future day in which God will reverse the spiral of our existence. He will do two things that many among many. He will bring justice to the people that have caused havoc in this world. (Psalm 10)
The second thing he will do is a magnificent change to this world so "the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay" (Romans 8:21). God will wipe out every tear from their eyes and there shall be no more death & suffering, crying or pain. The old order of things will be passed away. The resurrection of Jesus is the beginnings of God's restoration of everything.
Remember that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. He is the physical self, God is not a physical being, he is around us. It's only when someone is born again by the Spirit of God that they have genuine, enduring, faith that doesn't need God to be a constant "visible" presence here on earth.
I still don't believe it.
Oh well.
Oh well.
Godly said:
Freewill and conscience is the answer to your previous comment myself friend.
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