Is Being Sexually Attracted to Children Wrong?

Cann!bal · Jul 26, 2013

Shadow said:
I said their is nothing wrong with being attracted to a 5 year old, but if you want to do sexual things to them that is fucked up. They can barely think for themselves and they haven't even entered puberty yet.

One of the key aspects of sexual attraction is to want to do sexual thing with the one you're attracted to. There's nothing wrong with it until they act on their urges.

187 said:
It's wrong because it just is common sense. Why is rape wrong? Cause its just not the right thing to do. Why are pedophiles weird? Cause they touch little kids cause that's the only people they can get.

You shouldn't generalize that all pedophiles rape and touch little kids, because a lot of them don't act on their temptations. Pedophiles that do rape and touch little kids get on the news and give the false impression that all of them do bad things to children. But there are civil pedophiles who don't act on their urges, and they probably take up the majority of all pedophiles.

Gangster said:
Yes this is wrong and weird in so many ways :/

Ace said:
It's wrong to have sexual urge's towards a child from the age's 1-13 being of 10 to 20 years older than them but once there around 16 it's fine really to me by then they can even be sexually attracted to you

Pro said:
Yes, the mere thought and idea of sexual attraction to children and babies is wrong.

Explain furthermore why it's wrong. No stating of opinions, only arguments of logic and evidence.

Ace said:
It's not a problem but it's mentally unjust and sick

Pedophilia is being treated exactly like how homosexuality was being treated. It's not a mental disorder, it is a biological favorable trait that is no longer deemed culturally and politically correct, it's another form of sexual orientation. And even if I'm wrong on that, that doesn't mean we should judge them based on their disorder, but rather on their actions.

Pro · Jul 26, 2013

Sure thing (I will elaborate my argument).

sexual attraction is defined as "attractiveness on the basis of sexual desire"

Source: http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=sexual attraction

The basis of these desires is to act whether forbidden or not. The fact that you have these thoughts is called "intent". Intent to injure, intent to kill are good examples of intent that are not justifiable.

Furthermore

The purpose of sex religiously is to procreate. You cannot procreate with a minor (child or baby) who is fertile.

Say your not religious and sex is for pleasure only. Children and babies are not fully developed psychically (focusing on there genitals) until they are through with puberty. Use of these organs anytime before that puts the body at risk of harm (such as internal bleeding).

Legally it is also a crime to have sex with a minor.

Legally, physically, and religiously I see it as wrong based upon these facts.

Note: for the purpose of debate ill call a minor between the ages of 1-16.

Mercedes · Jul 26, 2013

If you think pedophiles/rapists do the right thing that's fine with you, but I don't have any respect for people who touch little kids for fun.

Cann!bal · Jul 26, 2013

Pro said:
Sure thing (I will elaborate my argument).

sexual attraction is defined as "attractiveness on the basis of sexual desire"

Source: http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=sexual attraction

The basis of these desires is to act whether forbidden or not. The fact that you have these thoughts is called "intent". Intent to injure, intent to kill are good examples of intent that are not justifiable.

Definitions mean practically nothing due to all the conflict and dissident other definitions cause.

Furthermore

The purpose of sex religiously is to procreate. You cannot procreate with a minor (child or baby) who is fertile.

That's not always the case religious-wise, but whatever, although, children young as five have had babies. Evolution will have it's flaws.

And don't make the misconception that I thoroughly think pedophilia is not a mental disorder, I was making educated speculation.

Say your not religious and sex is for pleasure only. Children and babies are not fully developed psychically (focusing on there genitals) until they are through with puberty. Use of these organs anytime before that puts the body at risk of harm (such as internal bleeding).

Evolution is a flawed mechanism in that sense.

Legally it is also a crime to have sex with a minor.

Legally, physically, and religiously I see it as wrong based upon these facts.

It's illegal, because it is not safe for the child(, plus because of cultural bias). Which is why I do not condone pedophiles who act upon their temptations.

I couldn't care less about it being religiously wrong.

187 said:
If you think pedophiles/rapists do the right thing that's fine with you, but I don't have any respect for people who touch little kids for fun.

Stop generalizing that all pedophiles are rapists, because that's blatantly incorrect. I never said they do the right thing.

Pro · Jul 26, 2013

1) If definitions are invalid your argument as to what a pedophilia actually is conflicts.

2) Evolution isn't flawed. We are here as what we are, if we were meant to have sexual capabilities from the start we would. Mind and body must develop simultaneously. Think about a child who's 6 years old with a 6 year old mind but the sexual capabilities of an adult.

3) I'm glad you don't condone pedophiles who act upon there temptations, however temptation was the first flaw of mankind.

4) Not caring about religion is an opinion. I was stating a fact based upon a major culture that exists (being religion).

Take my argument for what you will, I have nothing further to say about this topic.

Mercedes · Jul 26, 2013

I don't see how you could possibly think pedophiles are right dude. If your an adult attracted to children than you need some therapy. Like if there 16 and up then ya I could see but kids is fucked up.

Ace · Jul 26, 2013

Do you have any emotional ties to this debate or are you just debating to debate

Mercedes · Jul 26, 2013

No dude but my friends sister got molested and its sick that people think its right .. Idk I'd you meant that to me or cannibal lol @ace

Cann!bal · Jul 26, 2013

Pro said:
1) If definitions are invalid your argument as to what a pedophilia actually is conflicts.

Not neccesarily. I never provided a short definition. I provided in-depth logic.

2) Evolution isn't flawed. We are here as what we are, if we were meant to have sexual capabilities from the start we would. Mind and body must develop simultaneously. Think about a child who's 6 years old with a 6 year old mind but the sexual capabilities of an adult.

I think you're a little ignorant of evolution. Evolution is flawed in certain senses.

Your example doesn't make any sense.

3) I'm glad you don't condone pedophiles who act upon there temptations, however temptation was the first flaw of mankind.

Please don't present unsubstantiated religious claims as the truth.

4) Not caring about religion is an opinion. I was stating a fact based upon a major culture that exists (being religion).

Was it ever suppose to be something else?

187 said:
I don't see how you could possibly think pedophiles are right dude. If your an adult attracted to children than you need some therapy. Like if there 16 and up then ya I could see but kids is fucked up.

You're acting incredibly ignorant of pedophilia. Reread the whole thread, and hopefully you'll get a better understanding.

Ace said:
Do you have any emotional ties to this debate or are you just debating to debate

What are you trying to imply? That I'm a pedophile?

I'm debating, because so many people are ignorant of the premise of pedophilia and sexual attraction to children.

EDIT: If you weren't addressing me, please use quotes next time.

Mercedes · Jul 26, 2013

Alright dude if you think pedophiles are cool then go ahead. I'm not acting ignorant ask your parent what they would think if their older friends think sexually about you and see if they think its right. They will most likely say no.

Pro · Jul 26, 2013

Cann!bal said:
Not neccesarily. I never provided a short definition. I provided in-depth logic.

Logic is opinion. You stated no opinion.

Cann!bal said:
I think you're a little ignorant of evolution. Evolution is flawed in certain senses.

Your example doesn't make any sense.

It does. Mind and body mature as one until the body peeks and the subject is no longer a minor. Since we are talking about under age, it makes perfect sense based on your previous claim.

Cann!bal said:
Please don't present unsubstantiated religious claims as the truth.

Over 85 percent of the world is religious. Over 75% follows the same belief.

Cann!bal said:
Was it ever suppose to be something else?

You quite clearly stated no opinions.

Mercedes · Jul 26, 2013

Thank you pro. You know about reality and you talk like a good person.

Cann!bal · Jul 26, 2013

187 said:
Alright dude if you think pedophiles are cool then go ahead. I'm not acting ignorant ask your parent what they would think if their older friends think sexually about you and see if they think its right. They will most likely say no.

I can't tell if you're being serious or just trolling me, but I'll just assume you're being trolling to ease my frustration with your ignorance.

Mercedes · Jul 26, 2013

Dude I hope you actually don't like pedophiles. Like are you one or something? That's like sticking up for criminals. Can't tell if your trolling or just weird.

Poe · Jul 26, 2013

187 said:
Dude I hope you actually don't like pedophiles. Like are you one or something? That's like sticking up for criminals. Can't tell if your trolling or just weird.

Read OP.

EDIT:

Before you start making accusations of me being a child rape enabler or potential pedophile, read a couple pages of the thread please, so you'll have a better understanding of what I'm really arguing for.

Mercedes · Jul 26, 2013

NVM I see what you meant my bad it just confused me

I just don't respect people who want to have sex with little kids.

Cann!bal · Jul 26, 2013

Pro said:
Logic is opinion. You stated no opinion.

Logic is not an opinion, don't be so absurd.

Yes, I stated logic, no opinions.

It does. Mind and body mature as one until the body peeks and the subject is no longer a minor. Since we are talking about under age, it makes perfect sense based on your previous claim.

I understand the brain and body development.

"Think about a child who's 6 years old with a 6 year old mind but the sexual capabilities of an adult."

I think this example was quite unnecessary and pretty confusing from first glance, but I think I understand what you were getting at now

Over 85 percent of the world is religious. Over 75% follows the same belief.

Fascinating statistics, although I'm already aware of them. But, your point being?

You quite clearly stated no opinions.

Umh, what. Reread what you said. I said I couldn't care less about religion.(An opinion.) You stated it was an opinion. I said it was never suppose to not be an opinion. You said I stated no opinions.

187 said:
Dude I hope you actually don't like pedophiles. Like are you one or something? That's like sticking up for criminals. Can't tell if your trolling or just weird.

Yep, you're most definitely trolling.

Mercedes · Jul 26, 2013

Lol I just read about how anonymous fucked with all the pedophiles. Cannibal if you are sexually attracted to 2 year olds its fine with me.

Ace · Jul 26, 2013

Yeah like it was stated earlier as long as you don't act on your temptation it's fine just a tad bit nasty.

You don't have to be ashamed if you are

Cann!bal · Jul 26, 2013

187 said:
Lol I just read about how anonymous fucked with all the pedophiles. Cannibal if you are sexually attracted to 2 year olds its fine with me.

Stay on topic, and stop being a benighted simpleton.

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