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Pink Floyd said:
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wale said:
I've heard absolutely nothing form parents, local police, or my school. I use to go to a drug infested school so I know what drugs do to kids. Btw don't you think your source is a bit bias?

Exactly you have no personal experience. And because you saw some kids in high school doing drugs that means you know all about drugs? you know the experience of doing drugs? no. I'm sorry but anything about drugs coming from you is just complete ignorance seeing as you have no experience with it. And you can look on any website marijuana does NOT cause brain damage, and is NOT addictive. Cigarettes are way worse than pot and ARE proven addictive.

Oooo you just failed in my books. Marijuana is addictive. Just not physically. You kiddin lol. You want me to start telling you what I personally have done in the past just to smoke a fat bowl?
Thats not the drugs thats your personality. Marijuana has no addictive chemicals in it.


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Not true. A credible source such as: http://www.lungusa.org/stop-smoking/about-smoking/health-effects/marijuana-smoke.html

I can't find the one by American Hear Association but its even more neutral.

And do people smoke 2 packs worth of joints a day? No. the content is higher but is not smoked nearly as much as cigarettes. A heavy pot smoker may smoke 3-4 joints in a day, and a heavy cigarette smoker can smoke 2 packs in a day.
 
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"Addiction is not a state of mind. Drugs like heroine you can not break with the simple state of mind. Weed though not addictive in a chemical way is a gate way drug and waste of money. Those under the influence commit crimes as well."

I clearly stated that earlier. It still is a gate way drug, and has no positive effect on your average user.
 

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wale said:
"Addiction is not a state of mind. Drugs like heroine you can not break with the simple state of mind. Weed though not addictive in a chemical way is a gate way drug and waste of money. Those under the influence commit crimes as well."

I clearly stated that earlier. It still is a gate way drug, and has no positive effect on your average user.

That was said by you, not an actual fact.
 

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Your mind buddy. I've said it 4 times I'll say it again, in your head you can become addicted to anything.

Does gambling have a factor that you smoke and get addicted to? No. Are there gambling addicts in the world? Yes.

MINDPHUCK?! Or are you just not looking at it from all perspectives.
 
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The Gate Way Drug is a theory. You can't tell me you can prove it wrong without doubt. I can't tell you thats a a sure without doubt. But how many kids do you know that start straight with heroine or cocaine.
 

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wale said:
how is that not a fact. That is exactly what you said it has no physically addictive substance in it.

It is only addictive to those with an addictive personality.

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Your mind buddy. I've said it 4 times I'll say it again, in your head you can become addicted to anything.

Does gambling have a factor that you smoke and get addicted to? No. Are there gambling addicts in the world? Yes.

MINDPHUCK?! Or are you just not looking at it from all perspectives.

But hard drugs like heroin and crack actually have a PHYSICAL addiction not just in your head. Thats my point.
 
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Oh okay, well I did say that it wasn't addictive in its chemicals but that people do start to build a psychological addiction.
 

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wale said:
I've said that. Are you familiar with the gate way theory. It doesn't have to do with with addiction.

Ya it has no factual base to either side of the argument, just a theory.
 

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wale said:
Haven't heard of the others myself. I'm against the legalization simply because it would serve nothing positive other then lowering the price for druggies who normally aren't the best people in the world.

And it would reduce the profits of alcohol companies. Did you know that Drug Free America commercials are sponsored by alcohol companies?

Also, I do marijuana from time to time and am in pretty much all AP classes with currently above a 4.0. I guess I'm not typical, but I personally can't see how it's a gateway drug, although for most people it seems to be one.

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The most damaging prospect of marijuana is addiction and your own personality.

AFAIK you don't really get medically addicted to weed. It's more like caffeine rather than something like cocaine.

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Once weed is legalized then people will start saying that we need to legalize cocaine and then heroine. When does the line stop?

That honestly just isn't true, there isn't really another way to put it. Weed isn't like cocaine or heroine, you aren't strongly addicted to it at all. Like I said, it's similar to wanting caffeine. Just wanting it. Also, heroine and cocaine aren't insanely popular drugs either. Let's be honest -- have you heard of anyone wanting to legalize them? It's because they're extremely destructive. Meanwhile, marijuana is more comparable to alcohol than to cocaine or heroine, meaning it would be more likely to see people protesting alcohol's legality than cocaine's illegality.
 
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Because weed is a weaker and less dangerous drug they'll start their. Eventually it will move up. And the majority of kids that do drugs are calling out for help or are just bad people.
 

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logistics said:
Meanwhile, marijuana is more comparable to alcohol than to cocaine or heroine, meaning it would be more likely to see people protesting alcohol's legality than cocaine's illegality.

I don't even think its comparable to alcohol, alcohol kills a lot of people through alcohol poisoning, liver failure, and other things like car accidents. Good points though.

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Because weed is a weaker and less dangerous drug they'll start their. Eventually it will move up. And the majority of kids that do drugs are calling out for help or are just bad people.

That all depends on the person. I thought we agreed the gateway theory was just that? a theory.
 
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