politics,weed, and synthetic weed

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

I was talking to relapse on that one... and on that one I'm not a fan of alcohol either. But the prohibition failed horribly.

 

[Relapse]

I'm not talking about use. I'm talking about legislation.

oh.

Marijuana and drugs like heroin are not even comparable. Heroin has many destructive properties including an extreme physical addiction, intense and extremely painful withdrawls if you try and quit, can spread many diseases such as HIV, clog blood vessels, and cause heart attacks and strokes. Thats just a small list of things heroin can do to you. Marijuana does none of that.

Not comparable what-so-ever.

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

Uh I've said that weed is lesser many times. And the spreading is because of bad habits. Some studies are claiming that cannabis is linked to hear disease, lunge cancer, short term memory loss, loss of control. That being said, I know people who use weed recreationally and manage to live. On the other hand heroin and cocaine has ruined the lives of everyone I know thats used

 

[logistics]

I realize you were talking to relapse, but maybe I'm misunderstanding. You were talking about how they would move from weed and go to harder drugs (assuming you still mean cocaine and heroine) legislation-wise. Were you not? Because I directly addressed it and was hoping for a response... I don't know if that sounds rude to you, no offense or anything was meant.

--I think I'm misunderstanding what you mean by moving on to harder drugs after reading the above post

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

Lets say I want the unrestricted use of hand guns. Once I get that, don't you think I'd want semi automatic weapons next?

 

[logistics]

Regardless, how is that comparable to drugs? What drug are you thinking of being legalized next? Because originally you said heroine or cocaine but I think that might have changed.

 

[Relapse]

Uh I've said that weed is lesser many times. And the spreading is because of bad habits. Some studies are claiming that cannabis is linked to hear disease, lunge cancer, short term memory loss, loss of control. That being said, I know people who use weed recreationally and manage to live. On the other hand heroin and cocaine has ruined the lives of everyone I know thats used

The only thing even somewhat comparable to what heroin can do is lung cancer, which is possible inhaling any type of smoke. The side effects aren't nearly as bad from marijuana as they are with stronger drugs, clearly. So clearly no laws will be passed legalizing the use of such strong drugs.

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

Nope still the same... I used those two as examples since they are big names.

 

[Relapse]

Lets say I want the unrestricted use of hand guns. Once I get that, don't you think I'd want semi automatic weapons next?

That's not at all relevant. Also, hand guns and semi automatic rifles are legal. (where I live).

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

That was meant to be used in a random example not specific to any government or district. I don't understand how you didn't pick up the example so I'll try and go a different route.

Lets say I love fast driving. I successful help pass legislation increasing the speed limit by 10 miles. Do you think I'll stop there? No, I might want another 10. then another, eventually I'd want no speed limit.

 

[logistics]

I'll give my example then. Someone I know was caught with 2/10ths of ecstasy, 1/10th being a year in jail. Ecstasy is on the level of cocaine and even meth -- HARD drugs. You saying cocaine or heroine next is like saying you go from the hand gun straight to the RPG, not the semi-automatic gun.

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

That was simple an example. Would you have liked me to make a hierarchical diagram for you showing exactly what would happen, when it would happen, and in what order

 

[Relapse]

That was meant to be used in a random example not specific to any government or district. I don't understand how you didn't pick up the example so I'll try and go a different route.

Lets say I love fast driving. I successful help pass legislation increasing the speed limit by 10 miles. Do you think I'll stop there? No, I might want another 10. then another, eventually I'd want no speed limit.

Like to show me an example of a city or state that has done that outside of your imagination? There are plenty of people that would love to have no speed limits. (I understand your example but im just pointing out the huge flaw in your logic)

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

Have you heard of hypotheticals? Btw you do understand speed limits aren't required by the federal government. Look at montana

 

[logistics]

With the last post I see where you're going with this. Honestly, I would agree but like 75-80% of people that do weed do it recreational and no drugs are really as popular that aren't hard drugs like cocaine. And I can try to cite it if I need to but so far this has just been from personal experience. Pretty much no one wants to use a needle so I'd say as far as you can go with this is LSD.. which actually would be pretty bad. There isn't much else I can say other than in my head it goes like this:

How bad a drug is, the highest being the least bad (because none of them are good)
-Marijuana
-Cigarettes/alcohol (debatable and I don't want to get into it)
--Pretty large gap--
-Just about every other drug out there.

I would say the government should draw a line at alcohol/cigarettes and say anything worse than them are illegal and anything not as bad as them are legal.


As you can see -- your examples don't fit this description. There aren't gaps with them and you're making it seem like there's a general amount that can be followed to get to the next drug's effects.

 

[Relapse]

Have you heard of hypotheticals? Btw you do understand speed limits aren't required by the federal government. Look at montana

I was pointing out the HUGE flaw in your logic with the whole argument not just the hypothetical situation. There not just going to pass a law legalizing heroin just because they did it for marijuana. Thats like saying they would legalize having nuclear missiles because they legalized having firecrackers.

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

I can agree that cigarettes are just terrible. Alcohol we have absolutely no chance ever or trying to repeal. Cigs we might have a chance, those actually just disgust me

 

[logistics]

I thought I might give another perspective to this discussion but apparently Relapse and me are at pretty much the same place, my bad for the double teaming. This has been a fun discussion for me though, hopefully it continues.

 

[Wale_mybb_import14682]

haha this is going to sound so weird but I didn't read the names. I thought you and Relapse were one for a bit which confused me so much

 

[Pink Floyd]

Well I've stated my opinion multiple times but you ignored it.