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RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

I believe gay people should be able to be married. From whatever we come from, we all came from the same one. We were made differently. Not one of us the same. How can you sit there and tell someone that they can't be something they are? Something that isn't their choice? It seems idiotic. We sit and tell people who they can love and who they can't? We take this matter over povert? Over gangs? Over security? Very stupid in my oppinion. It's a very stupid thing that is argued about over things that need to be dealt with. You can continue saying whatever you want about how "its not right" or "marriage should be man and women nothing else". The worlds evolving. Some things we can't control. Why fight it. Being normal and what we are supposed to be in society is fucked up anymore anyway.
 

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RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

i dont think they should be aloud to get married. Shit, i dont even think they should be out in public. There is a couple in my school who dont hop off each other. Its nasty, i cant eat lunch without turning around to see them all rubbing up on each other. i wouldnt mind gays so much if they werent hooked on eachothers dicks. But lesbians are ok, i dont mind lesbians
 

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Tell me one valid con of gay marriage. I'll try to disprove you. So far I can't think of any besides that it's wrong according to some peoples religious beliefs, but newsflash, God doesn't exist. Equality is more important than your make-believe primitive cult.


That's your reason why they should be denied equal rights... because you're homophobic.
 

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Cannibаl said:
your make-believe primitive cult.
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I really enjoy debating with you but it'd be great if you respect our beliefs. If you respect ours, we'll respect yours.

Cannibаl said:
That's your reason why they should be denied equal rights... because you're homophobic.
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Homophobic literally means fear of gay people. We aren't afraid of them, I detest whoever coined that phrase. We just don't think what gays do is ethical.

Don't have time for a full post now, but I'll be back later tonight/tomorrow morning with one.

Until I can fully reply, if you could answer these questions:

Why can't I marry a dog?
Why can't I marry a 13 year old?
Why can't I marry my cousin?
 

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RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

People don't choose to be gay. Some people assume that it is a choice, and I truly pity them.

You're born the way you are, and for other people to tell you what you're doing is wrong, is not fair. Whatever that may be.

I say, let them do what they want, as it is their life. Who are we to judge another human for their ways?
 

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Paul H. said:
Until I can fully reply, if you could answer these questions:

Why can't I marry a dog?
Why can't I marry a 13 year old?
Why can't I marry my cousin?
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Now you've just blown the whole topic out of proportion. There is a difference between frown upon some and morally wrong or genetically incorrect. Please let me know where in any sort of religious text where being gay is against God. And the Christian community itself shouldn't be judging Gay Marriage since the Christians' history has been the most fucked up of any groups on this planet ever. I actually have my own conspiracy theory about the bible myself that I'm gonna post in a minute.
 

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RE: Thought's on gay marriage?


I was exaggerating, don't take me so literally. I'll respect your beliefs, I apologize.

Q: Why can't I marry a dog?
A: I'll answer your question with another question. Who has ever tried to marry a dog? And I know there are most likely 1 or 2 cases where people have in India or somewhere, but seriously, asking me this question is like asking why can't I marry a rock, it's obvious why.

Q: Why can't I marry a 13 year old?
A: You can in some states, but it would mostly likely require either judicial and or parental consent. In some countries it's a custom to marry when your 13-years-old, even younger.

Q: Why can't I marry my cousin?
A: A lot of states allow cousin marriage .There are more states that allow cousin marriage than gay marriage.
Might be a little inaccurate since it's a little old.
 

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You just roasted the fuck out of him. And Cannibal, I earned alot of respect for you in this debate.
 

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You can agree it's wrong to marry a 13 year old if I'm 18, can't you? And, you say it's "obviously wrong". Why is it wrong? Explain. People in Japan have been known to marry pretty much anything, including their pillows.
 

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Paul H. said:
You can agree it's wrong to marry a 13 year old if I'm 18, can't you? And, you say it's "obviously wrong". Why is it wrong? Explain. People in Japan have been known to marry pretty much anything, including their pillows.
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Well, if there was special circumstance like pregnancy, then I would object. But you would still need parental and judicial consent before you could even get married.

I never said it was wrong. Don't misquote me, please. I said it obvious why you can't marry a animal.
 

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Why is it wrong for an adult to date/marry a minor?

What's the obvious reason why you can't marry an animal? Explain to me as if I'm someone who honestly wants to marry his great dane.
 

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Paul H. said:
Why is it wrong for an adult to date/marry a minor?

What's the obvious reason why you can't marry an animal? Explain to me as if I'm someone who honestly wants to marry his great dane.
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I never said it was wrong, but it's interpreted as inappropriate by most of today's society.

What would be the real point of the marriage? Love? And how can we tell if the animal wants to even get married? The animal is being forced to marry. I don't see any real valid reasons, unless you care to explain.

Your counter-arguments are coming up inconclusive, can you cut to the chase of what you're trying to say instead of continuously asking me questions that don't seem to be going anywhere?
 

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So is this ok? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKYhbHAB4-g

I'm trying to have you come up with an ethical explanation as to why these sexual practices are wrong so you can see the "traditional" marriage people's point of view.

It's wrong to marry a dog, even if you can love your dog all you want, and your dog loves you back. If you're into that kind of thing you can even have sex with your dog. The thing is, it's unnatural sex. Our bodies aren't meant to have sex with dogs. It's greatly harmful to the dog to do it. The same goes for gay activity. Dicks aren't meant to go into assholes, an ass isn't a sexual organ. It can cause extreme harm.
 

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Well, that girl isn't 13, she's 18 and they're not getting married. Also, that man is a pedophile, I saw that before and read up that he's now in jail for raping a younger girl that went there a while before that.

As for homosexuality being unnatural:
[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jrh8VVwMI4[/video]

EDIT: Here's another video that related to the video above. Don't get offended by the title.
[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHLC06B1DUE[/video]
 

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That's a really weird argument, claiming nothing is unnatural. What would you describe pedophilia, necrophilia or bestiality as then? Let's change the term "unnatural" to "disordered" I guess. A mental health issue. Also, I'm a Catholic, and as a Catholic I don't believe being homosexual is wrong per se, but doing homosexual acts are. They are harmful. As I said, "Our bodies aren't meant to have sex with dogs. It's greatly harmful to the dog to do it. The same goes for gay activity. Dicks aren't meant to go into assholes, an ass isn't a sexual organ. It can cause extreme harm."

I'm going to consult a philosopher friend of mine on the video, his logic seems flawed anyways.
 

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Just saying, whats the difference between a guy fucking a girl in the ass then a guy fucking a guy in the ass? It happens in both male-female relationships along with male-male relationships.
 

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Godly. said:
Just saying, whats the difference between a guy fucking a girl in the ass then a guy fucking a guy in the ass? It happens in both male-female relationships along with male-male relationships.
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It's still not meant to go in a girls ass. There is a reason the vagina has natural lubricant and the asshole you need lube. nuff.
 

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RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

Honestly as I said before if your gay you need to rethink your existence like honestly why would a guy turn you on.
 

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Godly. said:
Just saying, whats the difference between a guy fucking a girl in the ass then a guy fucking a guy in the ass? It happens in both male-female relationships along with male-male relationships.
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I don't believe in guys fucking girls in the ass either.

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Honestly as I said before if your gay you need to rethink your existence like honestly why would a guy turn you on.
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It's a mental disorder like anything else. Don't think it makes a person any less.
 

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Paul H. said:
It's a mental disorder like anything else. Don't think it makes a person any less.
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Homosexuality is not a mental disorder. Thats like saying being turned on my getting hit is a mental disorder. Everyone in their world has their own distinct preferences in terms of features that attract.

Saying that someone who is not turned on by females is caused by a problem in their brain is likening homosexuals with kleptos and schizophrenics.

Its just plain ignorant

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