Thought's on gay marriage and abortion?

[Cann!bal]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

Honestly as I said before if your gay you need to rethink your existence like honestly why would a guy turn you on.

What's wrong with homosexuality exactly in your opinion?

We're not just talking about gay marriage for men, we're also talking about gay marriage for women, too. And so far no one has made an argument towards lesbians on why they can't have marital rights, why? Because people are homophobic with only gay men. The homophobes who were against gay marriage for men were actually supporting lesbianism in this debate.

So what's wrong with lesbianism? Why should lesbians be denied marital rights?

 

[Paul H.]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

Homosexuality is not a mental disorder. Thats like saying being turned on my getting hit is a mental disorder. Everyone in their world has their own distinct preferences in terms of features that attract.

It also the same thing that saying being turned on my seven year old girls is a mental disorder. It turns out it is, it's called pedophilia. Now, before you say I'm calling gays pedos...

Saying that someone who is not turned on by females is caused by a problem in their brain is likening homosexuals with kleptos and schizophrenics.

That is what I'm saying. It's like down syndrome, dyslexia, anorexia or any other mental issue. I'm not "likening" them, like saying they're all screwed up and should be committed to mental hospitals, I'm saying it's a disordered attraction.

Its just plain ignorant

/rant

We can call each other names, but it doesn't change anything.

 

[Paul H.]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

The homophobes

I hate that term, it implies we're afraid of homosexuals, which we're not.

So what's wrong with lesbianism? Why should lesbians be denied marital rights?

The lesbian have the right to marry any man they want. That's another issue - people construe marriage as that it's about "love". The family - and therefore marriage - is the basic cornerstone of society. Homosexuals cannot procreate, not even by some sort of miracle.

 

[Cann!bal]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

I hate that term, it implies we're afraid of homosexuals, which we're not.


The lesbian have the right to marry any man they want. That's another issue - people construe marriage as that it's about "love". The family - and therefore marriage - is the basic cornerstone of society. Homosexuals cannot procreate, not even by some sort of miracle.

Lesbians don't want to marry men, they want to marry their same-sex partner. The number one reason people marry is because of love, I said this a while ago in the thread to you. Homosexuals can adopt, they can have their own family even though they're both not their child's biological parents. They can also get a sperm donor, and then one of them could be the biological parent.

Somewhat ironic that you say homosexuals couldn't possibly procreate not even by miracle, when Jesus was procreated by the virgin Mary without the need of her spouse Joseph.

 

[Paul H.]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

Somewhat ironic that you say homosexuals couldn't possibly procreate not even by miracle, when Jesus was procreated by the virgin Mary without the need of her spouse Joseph.

Hence the miracle.

You that's the social aspect though. You never responded to the physical aspect.

 

[Dopest]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

That is what I'm saying. It's like down syndrome, dyslexia, anorexia or any other mental issue. I'm not "likening" them, like saying they're all screwed up and should be committed to mental hospitals, I'm saying it's a disordered attraction.


We can call each other names, but it doesn't change anything.

Alright but saying a human should be locked up for not conforming to what we view as "normal" is like telling people they can't have their own preferences.

Not gonna argue that pedophilia isn't okay, but who are we to define what is natural? What gave you or me the right to say that their love is invalid, or a sign of mental illness? Couldn't homosexuals argue the same thing about heterosexuals?

 

[Paul H.]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

Alright but saying a human should be locked up for not conforming to what we view as "normal" is like telling people they can't have their own preferences.

Not gonna argue that pedophilia isn't okay, but who are we to define what is natural? What gave you or me the right to say that their love is invalid, or a sign of mental illness? Couldn't homosexuals argue the same thing about heterosexuals?

I never said gays should be locked up.

I've said before that gay activity is not healthy or natural. Penises aren't meant to go into assholes. It's very harmful.

 

[Dopest]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

I'm not "likening" them, like saying they're all screwed up and should be committed to mental hospitals,

Putting them up in a mental institution qualifies as locking them up.

Before you argue that,

They're locked up because they're to be kept away from society to prevent any harm or anything malicious. Same thing as being jailed imo.

 

[Kill]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

Hence the miracle.

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kX6rf9uw7w&feature=player_embedded[/video]
Possibly a Miracle from your 'God'. And Your comparing completely different things. You need to open your eyes and stop following a blind rule.​

 

[Paul H.]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

Putting them up in a mental institution qualifies as locking them up.

Before you argue that,

They're locked up because they're to be kept away from society to prevent any harm or anything malicious. Same thing as being jailed imo.

And I never said gays should be jailed or locked up either.

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kX6rf9uw7w&feature=player_embedded[/video]
Possibly a Miracle from your 'God'. And Your comparing completely different things. You need to open your eyes and stop following a blind rule.​

Doesn't have anything to do with this thread. The does God exist debate isn't here. I've tried to make my case for traditional marriage without calling on religious aspects.

 

[I_I_Z_I_I]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

Paul

First off the misconception about "It being unatural/Mental disorder" bullshit, you know what? Most animals do it, and if by your faith god created everything, he created these gay dolphins too. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...spread-in-animals-according-to-new-study.html

Dicks aren't meant to go into assholes, take a basic biology class. You get fucking cancer.

Sources please?

Marriage is the foundation of a family. That's what it always has been. Don't say "a man and a man or a woman and a woman are as good as a man and a woman as parents" because it's not true. A mom and a dad are both different. You need both male and female parental influence in your life growing up, and there are studies to show it. The same stuff that happens to kids with single parents happens to kids with gay parents, sometimes worse because you aren't even the biological kid of both of them.

Again sources, these "studies" you speak of.
And besides that I know several (3-4) Teenagers raised by only male dads, and they are; Normal, competent, empathic and friendly kids.


Now you keep drawing this line (even though you said multiple times "not saying gays are pedos") between pedophiles and gays. The difference is being gay is a sexual orientation hurting no one, because both parts agree to have sex (unless rape, which happens to both straight and gays). But kids being fucked isn't right because of one, simple thing; they cannot give consent, they are too young to understand what is going.

This isn't meant to hurt you personally, even though its a bit offensive.
but please, for gods sake, Source your "facts". [/quote]

 

[Kill]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

That is what I'm saying. It's like down syndrome, dyslexia, anorexia or any other mental issue. I'm not "likening" them, like saying they're all screwed up and should be committed to mental hospitals, I'm saying it's a disordered attraction.

Maybe Christians should all be locked up in a mental institution? Sexual Preference or Religious Preference...there is no difference. At least you guys are spouting out crazy theories that came from an Omniscient deity. If you actually took time to assess the situation. You would know that you have no opinion about other peoples' relationships. You say they should be locked up in a mental hospital, but did you actually look at the world through their shoes?

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Dicks aren't meant to go into assholes, take a basic biology class. You get fucking cancer.

You are confusing the 'study of life' with the study of 'the human body'. I'd recommend getting a high school education first.

 

[Paul H.]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

Maybe Christians should all be locked up in a mental institution? Sexual Preference or Religious Preference...there is no difference. At least you guys are spouting out crazy theories that came from an Omniscient deity. If you actually took time to assess the situation. You would know that you have no opinion about other peoples' relationships. You say they should be locked up in a mental hospital, but did you actually look at the world through their shoes?

And for the third time, I never said they should be locked up or put in a mental institution. And, all of my arguements against gay marriage have been from a non-religious point of view. Cannibal was the one who introduced religion.

You are confusing the 'study of life' with the study of 'the human body'. I'd recommend getting a high school education first.

I'm a sophomore at a private four year university. Perhaps you should go get a life.


I_I_Z_I_I, I'm about to go to class at my private, four year university so I can't answer you now but I definitely will get you my sources later.

 

[Kill]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

I'm a sophomore at a private four year university. Perhaps you should go get a life.

I wasn't quoting you. lol

 

[Paul H.]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

I wasn't quoting you. lol

Well, I said something similar but not quite so bluntly

 

[Devour]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

My thread is getting a little out of hand I like it.

 

[Cann!bal]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

I've said before that gay activity is not healthy or natural. Penises aren't meant to go into assholes. It's very harmful.

Just because it's unnatural doesn't make it wrong.

 

[I_I_Z_I_I]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

Just because it's unnatural doesn't make it wrong.

And it is actually quite natural.

 

[Comet]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

Paul, you do bring up good points. But you're almost treating it like people have a choice to be gay.

And honestly, anybody who thinks homosexuality is a choice, is uneducated. It's not a choice, just like you don't get to choose the colour of your hair at birth. It happens, and when it does, it is not something you can reverse or change.

So, by saying that it is wrong, you are implying they had a choice in the first place, and therefore you are uneducated on the topic. If you knew they had a choice, maybe you'd try putting yourself into their shoes and considering how it would feel if people told you that your life was wrong and that you shouldn't exist.

Anyone who thinks that of other people are truly the ones who shouldn't exist.

 

[Paul H.]

RE: Thought's on gay marriage?

And it is actually quite natural.

Just because animals do it doesn't make it natural.

Paul, you do bring up good points. But you're almost treating it like people have a choice to be gay.

And honestly, anybody who thinks homosexuality is a choice, is uneducated. It's not a choice, just like you don't get to choose the colour of your hair at birth. It happens, and when it does, it is not something you can reverse or change.

So, by saying that it is wrong, you are implying they had a choice in the first place, and therefore you are uneducated on the topic. If you knew they had a choice, maybe you'd try putting yourself into their shoes and considering how it would feel if people told you that your life was wrong and that you shouldn't exist.

Anyone who thinks that of other people are truly the ones who shouldn't exist.

I've never said anything either way if they are born that way or not. I never said they shouldn't exist either. I have several friends who are gay and though I disagree with their choice to be actively gay, I value them like a human like anyone else.

People with ADD are "born that way" yet we try to treat them. Why can't we help gays who want to be straight (they do exist, I know some of those too) without being labelled homophobe? Don't say it's a permanent thing, many people have changed sexual orientation. And if we aren't allowed to chane sexual orientation, why can we change physical sex (as much of a joke as that is)