Why do sponsers have such high reputation effects

Guys oh meh goodness, y'all are fighting over a stupid number that no one cares about. Some people do, the ones that want to be popular and want to seem trusted but in actual reality, it's just a number which does not make you trusted nor popular. So all in all, this is a waste of time for everyone.

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Guys oh meh goodness, y'all are fighting over a stupid number that no one cares about. Some people do, the ones that want to be popular and want to seem trusted but in actual reality, it's just a number which does not make you trusted nor popular. So all in all, this is a waste of time for everyone.

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Regardless of who believes it or not, this is a section designated for feedback and that is exactly what we're providing the OP with. By having made a public topic, he's looking for our view on the matter and it's to be expected that there will be some differences or just plain disagreements.

No one is fighting. This is an argument, otherwise known as a debate. You've failed to see that. Take a seat.

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Guys oh meh goodness, y'all are fighting over a stupid number that no one cares about. Some people do, the ones that want to be popular and want to seem trusted but in actual reality, it's just a number which does not make you trusted nor popular. So all in all, this is a waste of time for everyone.

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Regardless of who believes it or not, this is a section designated for feedback and that is exactly what we're providing the OP with. By having made a public topic, he's looking for our view on the matter and it's to be expected that there will be some differences or just plain disagreements.

No one is fighting. This is an argument, otherwise known as a debate. You've failed to see that. Take a seat.

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He didn't ask our "view on the matter", he is stating that he wants things to be fair and things to be set even. I don't really see a point in leaving this thread open for these "arguments" to continue. It's up to The Elite and not up to these other members.

A fight, an argument, they're the same thing. Maybe I just didn't include it was a "verbal" fight, my bad. And if this is a section for people to provide their feedback and opinions then why are you telling me to take a seat? I haven't failed to realize anything. :thumbsup:

Sorry but a fight and an argument are completely 2 different things. In a fight people just sling insults and immature pointless comments, In an argument people are using rational points and facts to prove themself right and the other wrong.

Well everyone is entitled to their on opinion. And in the house I grew up in, if it's a fight, it's an argument. Vise versa.

It's actually not an opinion

Argument-a discussion involving differing points of view; debate:

fight-an angry argument or disagreement

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I don't really see a point in leaving this thread open for these "arguments" to continue. It's up to The Elite and not up to these other members.

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...just like it's up to him to decide whether or not this thread stays open. For now, it's open. And while it is, we're free to comment on how we feel about this potential change. When and if The Elite sees to it that it be closed, that'll be the end of it. You're overstepping you're boundaries here Amped. Carbon is staff here for a reason. That is the same reason you aren't. Having said that, if he exercises his judgement and posts this topic, then you should leave it at that.

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He didn't ask our "view on the matter", he is stating that he wants things to be fair and things to be set even.

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This is a no-brainer. Why would you post something in the 'Feedback and Suggestions' sub-forum if you're not seeking feedback for it? If Carbon didn't want or didn't care for our opinion on the matter, don't you think he would have forwarded the intent to management personally? Seems obvious...

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A fight, an argument, they're the same thing.

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A fight is understood to be physical and abusive, if you want to get technical. An argument can be understood as a debate. There's nothing wrong with a debate. Personally, I would rather not get technical since it would require going off-topic so I'll leave it at that.

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And if this is a section for people to provide their feedback and opinions then why are you telling me to take a seat? I haven't failed to realize anything. :thumbsup:

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I was telling you to take a seat because you're telling us both off for trying to reason with each other, which by both my and RG's standards is tolerable for this section.

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Let's try to keep this on-topic for the sake of addressing the real issue at heart here. If you have any unfinished business with me, take it up with me personally, not as a public appeal.; its disrespectful to the OP.

What word was used in the meaning of fight? ....Thank you. Disagreement, which leads to a debate. What do you think has been going on in this thread? Disagreements, debates, and fights.

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What word was used in the meaning of fight? ....Thank you. Disagreement, which leads to a debate. What do you think has been going on in this thread? Disagreements, debates, and fights.

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apparently you missed the word "angry" in front of the definition.

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What word was used in the meaning of fight? ....Thank you. Disagreement, which leads to a debate. What do you think has been going on in this thread? Disagreements, debates, and fights.

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apparently you missed the word "angry" in front of the definition.

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And maybe you missed the word "or" after fight.

Now back on topic.. Like I said in the beginning of the post. I agree with this. But why does it really matter if someone has more rep than they should? Even you Carbon said before you don't care about rep, correct?

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Now back on topic.. Like I said in the beginning of the post. I agree with this. But why does it really matter if someone has more rep than they should? Even you Carbon said before you don't care about rep, correct?

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By giving someone more ability to rep, you're indirectly saying 'we think your opinion is worth more than those who can give less of a rating'. And that's wrong. If it was up to me, it would be a good rep, bad rep or no rep. No +2,3... bullshit.

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What word was used in the meaning of fight? ....Thank you. Disagreement, which leads to a debate. What do you think has been going on in this thread? Disagreements, debates, and fights.

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apparently you missed the word "angry" in front of the definition.

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And maybe you missed the word "or" after fight.

Now back on topic.. Like I said in the beginning of the post. I agree with this. But why does it really matter if someone has more rep than they should? Even you Carbon said before you don't care about rep, correct?

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ya an "or" not a period. the word still carries over.... you know one of those adjective thingys.

I honestly don't see why Carbon cares either im pretty sure i've seen him on multiple occasions say he doesn't care about rep.

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Now back on topic.. Like I said in the beginning of the post. I agree with this. But why does it really matter if someone has more rep than they should? Even you Carbon said before you don't care about rep, correct?

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By giving someone more ability to rep, you're indirectly saying 'we think your opinion is worth more than those who can give less of a rating'. And that's wrong. If it was up to me, it would be a good rep, bad rep or no rep.

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Well a forum is a hierarchy of some sort, so the higher up on the hierarchy you are the more your opinion matters.

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Now back on topic.. Like I said in the beginning of the post. I agree with this. But why does it really matter if someone has more rep than they should? Even you Carbon said before you don't care about rep, correct?

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By giving someone more ability to rep, you're indirectly saying 'we think your opinion is worth more than those who can give less of a rating'. And that's wrong. If it was up to me, it would be a good rep, bad rep or no rep.

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So what you are saying is, everyone should have an equal amount of rep available to give and receive? I think no rep at all sounds good.

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Solidify said:

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Now back on topic.. Like I said in the beginning of the post. I agree with this. But why does it really matter if someone has more rep than they should? Even you Carbon said before you don't care about rep, correct?

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By giving someone more ability to rep, you're indirectly saying 'we think your opinion is worth more than those who can give less of a rating'. And that's wrong. If it was up to me, it would be a good rep, bad rep or no rep.

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So what you are saying is, everyone should have an equal amount of rep available to give and receive? I think no rep at all sounds good.

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agreed might as well not have rep if its going to be like that.

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Solidify said:

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Now back on topic.. Like I said in the beginning of the post. I agree with this. But why does it really matter if someone has more rep than they should? Even you Carbon said before you don't care about rep, correct?

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By giving someone more ability to rep, you're indirectly saying 'we think your opinion is worth more than those who can give less of a rating'. And that's wrong. If it was up to me, it would be a good rep, bad rep or no rep.

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So what you are saying is, everyone should have an equal amount of rep available to give and receive? I think no rep at all sounds good.

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That's exactly what I'm saying. In an equal world, everyone's opinion is just as valuable as someone else's. So why not exercise that concept here as well?

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Solidify said:

By giving someone more ability to rep, you're indirectly saying 'we think your opinion is worth more than those who can give less of a rating'. And that's wrong. If it was up to me, it would be a good rep, bad rep or no rep.

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So what you are saying is, everyone should have an equal amount of rep available to give and receive? I think no rep at all sounds good.

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That's exactly what I'm saying. In an equal world, everyone's opinion is just as valuable as someone else's. So why not exercise that concept here as well?

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I can understand that and I completely agree. Maybe instead of the red and green numbers, they should be gray numbers. Everyone able to give neutral feedback, and in that feedback they can state the good or bad about that person.

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Solidify said:

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So what you are saying is, everyone should have an equal amount of rep available to give and receive? I think no rep at all sounds good.

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That's exactly what I'm saying. In an equal world, everyone's opinion is just as valuable as someone else's. So why not exercise that concept here as well?

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I can understand that and I completely agree. Maybe instead of the red and green numbers, they should be gray numbers. Everyone able to give neutral feedback, and in that feedback they can state the good or bad about that person.

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I honestly don't think a color change will improve anything. If we do this, we need to do it the right way. For example, if you have something positive to say about a member, go ahead and specify so when you give him a +1. If you have an argument with him and you weren't able to sort out the dispute, explain the situation or why you dislike this member when you leave a -1 on his profile.

The idea here is to make everyone equal. There's two ways I suggest that to be done.

1. Even out the reputation system so it's one point that can go either way;
2. or just simply revoke the entire system itself.

People should be able to express how they feel about someone in words and not have to cling to the use of numbers to get the job done for them.

Solidify said:

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Solidify said:

That's exactly what I'm saying. In an equal world, everyone's opinion is just as valuable as someone else's. So why not exercise that concept here as well?

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I can understand that and I completely agree. Maybe instead of the red and green numbers, they should be gray numbers. Everyone able to give neutral feedback, and in that feedback they can state the good or bad about that person.

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I honestly don't think a color change will improve anything. If we do this, we need to do it the right way. For example, if you have something positive to say about a member, go ahead and specify so when you give him a +1. If you have an argument with him and you weren't able to sort out the dispute, explain the situation or why you dislike this member when you leave a -1 on his profile.

The idea here is to make everyone equal. There's two ways I suggest that to be done.

1. Even out the reputation system so it's one point that can go either way;
2. or just simply revoke the entire system itself.

People should be able to express how they feel about someone in words and not have to cling to the use of numbers to get the job done for them.

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Your over analysing it. Either way its still an opinion, no matter how many numbers there are. The opinion is still equal just the more you help the site owner the more numbers you can use. Thats it. It doesn't even mean anything while trading anymore since there is the vouch system. Just because I can use a bigger number doesn't make my opinion any more important than theirs.

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Just because I can use a bigger number doesn't make my opinion any more important than theirs.

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Then why wouldn't you be willing to give it up?

Solidify said:

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Just because I can use a bigger number doesn't make my opinion any more important than theirs.

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Then why wouldn't you be willing to give it up?

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Why should I have to? As I said a few posts back it is a hierarchy, and the higher on the hierarchy you are the more numbers you can give. If you want more numbers donate more money. Its not like its a huge amount of money, any1 can make it in a couple weeks by just botting. It's not like its forbidding any1 from getting the ability to give more of these numbers. and they are just that. Numbers.